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Why Did the FBI Spy on Trump and/or Lie to Congress?
Townhall.com ^ | May 13, 2018 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 05/13/2018 6:35:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

Now that revelations have come to light that at worst have the Federal Bureau of Investigation placing a spy within the ranks of the Trump 2016 campaign, and at best have the FBI hiding evidence from congressional oversight it is clear that the Department of Justice, and specifically the FBI, even now have top brass making decisions that must be outed, removed, and if necessary—charged.

I admit you may not have heard anything about these revelations because, aside from the dedicated work of Kimberly Strassel at the Wall Street Journal, few outlets have dedicated almost any coverage to the matter.

But pause just a second on what my opening sentence claims.

There is an increasingly likely scenario being sniffed out by heads of congressional oversight committees that adds up to the previously most trusted bureau of law enforcement on American soil having actually planted a “source” on the inside of a campaign for President with the express purpose of entrapping officials into admission of some sort of corrupt collusion with foreign powers.

My Salem Media colleague in talk radio—Joe Walsh—has repeatedly tweeted through the investigations into Russian collusion that accusing Mueller, the FBI and the DOJ of foul motives was beneath what honorable Americans should resorting to. But I ask my friend Mr. Walsh and America in general, “how can we not?”

The amount of corruption that has poured forth from the revelations of the congressional oversight bodies would have gone unknown if his former congressional colleagues Devin Nunes and Trey Gowdy had not been willing to unearth the truth. (Without their dedicated pursuits we’d still not know that Hillary Clinton and the Democrats were responsible for the now debunked “Steele dossier.”)

What is now documentable is that the Obama appointees had much to cover up as Trump was transitioning into office. The Strzok & Page text threads demonstrated absolute collusion between DOJ, FBI, and special counsel investigations to attempt to undo the votes of the American people. Andrew McCabe rightfully lost his job because of abject malfeasance and near outright hostility towards the President. James Comey was fired for absolute incompetence (or corruption). And the thin stupidity of an argument that says the Mueller investigation even now holds a legitimate purpose is being disputed by the American public who now poll positive on Mueller being on a corrupt conquest, instead of a patriotic mission.

Yet it is the corruption—as we are still learning more to this very minute—not the Trump campaign’s connection to anyone—but rather the lengths that the FBI stooped to in attempting to achieve subterfuge that stands as an outrageous violation of our self determination as promised vis-a-vie the American Constitution, and our Declaration of Independence.

So for whatever reason they will have to formulate in their coming accountability, (and believe me it’s coming—on the talk radio front I will not rest until this question is satisfactorily addressed) the FBI and DOJ will eventually have to give a reason as to why they violated the sacred process of our elections and placed a “source” (spy/agent—pick your poison) within the operation of a campaign during one of the most heated election cycles of the modern era.

“But Kev… what if they didn’t?”

Then let’s find out who that “source” mentioned in the FBI docs truly is? What purpose did they serve? And what was expected of their assignment?

If the cause was appropriate, if a national security issue was truly at stake, if all of the process in establishing the source was protocol then fine—I will accept it.

But if all of that was the case then riddle me this, why didn’t the FBI lawfully turn over that information a year ago?

Congressional oversight committees exist to protect “We the People.” That the FBI purposefully lied to their accountability who represent us is problematic, they must not be allowed to proceed like this in this instance or in any similar circumstance… ever!

Paul Ryan agrees. This is why he called the FBI out by saying not only was the request by the chairman “wholly appropriate” and “completely within the scope" of the committee’s long-running FBI investigation, but added it was “something that should have been answered a while ago.”

As Strassel summarizes, “The department knew full well it should have turned this material over last year… but deliberately chose… to conceal it.”

I was raised to have deep respect for law enforcement on every level.

Having known former agents from the FBI I always had the impression that the joe-shoeleather on the force are salt of the earth, honest, crime fighting, and highly dedicated individuals. I still feel that way about the agents carrying out the work across the globe at any one moment.

But the cancerous partisans that aggregated seemingly limitless power over the Obama years that served in its leadership must be removed.

When Congressional overseers sniff out wrong doing and the acting director Rosenstein claims that normal accountability is akin to “extortion” and even claimed “constitutional duty” in refusing to comply with the same oversight, it sounds to me as though someone needs a reminder of who works for who.

They… work… for... Us!

Strassel said on my show on Friday—and I think she’s right—that the only way the American people will gain confidence that all of the cancer has been dealt with in this law enforcement arm that we need to be healthy is to declassify the entire batch of documents related to the investigation.

No more hiding of the Easter eggs at Justice.

It’s time to tell the truth, and it’s time to start with the FBI.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: coup; deepstate; fbi; russia; spying
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To: Psalm 144
Back in the day, real men were in the FBI. We worked together at Xerox after he left the FBI. Never told me why he left.

Ben Hurley

41 posted on 05/13/2018 9:02:43 AM PDT by Utah Binger (At The Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: Kaslin

Because the FBI has been infiltrated by a bunch of socialists, and are attempting a coup d’ etat?

Subversion or sedition is a serious offense, and should be punishable by death.

The desperation of the leftists, especially the ones who where planted by the obama administration, is quickly reaching panic mode. They are lashing out at any and all accusations in an attempt to avoid the firing squad.

In the mean time, the people have lost faith in the ability of the DOJ and FBI to perform their lawful duties.

These people deserve what is coming to them, and either the executive branch cleans house, or the people will.


42 posted on 05/13/2018 9:08:29 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Starboard
They have to be more responsive to the people because of the frequency of elections.

Increase house terms to three years; decrease senate terms to five.

43 posted on 05/13/2018 9:09:37 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

The whole goal is to eliminate the career politician, forever. If they can’t become fabulously wealthy on a $170k salary while lining their pockets selling influence, only those who truly wish to SERVE will participate.


44 posted on 05/13/2018 9:12:30 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Interesting suggestion.

Regardless of term lengths, I definitely want to see term limits of some kind. The Founders never imagined that people would live so long or could foresee a class of professional politicos who would become entitled careerists.

The Founders did know, however, that power corrupts and the longer people hang around in Washington the more they are likely to defend the system that feeds them.

Any limits would be welcome.


45 posted on 05/13/2018 9:19:23 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Zeneta

I can’t see that Halper can be characterized as an “inside agent”. He was almost certainly an ‘agent’ and was sniffing around for info on Trump’s campaign, but I haven’t seen any evidence that he was ‘inside’ the Trump campaign.
Carter Page appears to me to have been inserted so as to trigger the Russian collusion excuse for the FISA.


46 posted on 05/13/2018 9:30:21 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

And Page, the TARGET of the FISA warrants has never been charged.

Yet, the FISA warrants were renewed 3 times?

Carter Page.

History of working FOR the FBI.


47 posted on 05/13/2018 9:36:38 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Starboard
The problem with term limits is that the elected politicians are then more dependent on unelected bureaucrats (see the Brit sitcom show "Yes, Minister" for a good look at this issue -- entertaining, too.)

The problem with getting the FBI out of the intelligence game is: Who does US counter-intelligence against Chinese spies, Muslim terrorists etc. I agree that the FBI has behaved very badly in recent years, both its criminal side, and its counter-intelligence side. It therefore probably does not deserve to survive.

48 posted on 05/13/2018 9:47:47 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

If you step back and look at all the puzzle pieces the entire picture comes into focus.

I’m not a Conspiracy nut.

However, I do consider what is both possible and probable in light of information that we know to be true.

IMHO, The FBI/DOJ/Hillary/Obama et al,, at the highest level, conspired to Spy on Trump. Conspired to overturn a Trump election victory to both protect themselves and reassert their control.

The only thing that is missing?

Whistle blowers to this conspiracy.

There seems to be a dozen or so high level players and each of them certainly have staff members that know what has transpired. Maybe the IG’s investigation will have found them. Finding them and getting their testimony on the record and out in public will be needed to wrap this up.

What I want?

At the end of the day, I want Vindication.

I want CNN to say; “WOW, it turns out that Hillary/Obama etc are a bunch of self serving criminals that lied and manipulated the media to enrich themselves and retain power”.


49 posted on 05/13/2018 10:15:00 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: BobL; Starboard
 
 
That's along the same lines I've been thinking BobL - this ain't their first rodeo at using intel resources against political opponents. It was probably so routine that they were predisposed to sloppiness at covering any tracks - typical of bureaucrat schmucks. Until they ran into someone who knew the game better than they do, and now the fact is exposed that we've been no better than any given banana republic. All that corrupt apparatus has to be burned to the ground and the earth salted where it once stood. There's no excuse for inaction against it - and anyone who balks is suspect as being part of it.
 
 

50 posted on 05/13/2018 10:44:35 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami; Starboard

Thanks. What Trump SHOULD do if he wants to get these guys outed and dealt with is threaten to CUT THEIR BUDGET, deeply. If the little guys see they’re facing job losses, perhaps they’ll be a bit quicker to speak up.

Remember, we say that the boys and girls at the top levels were corrupt - but they weren’t the ones intercepting the phone calls and E-Mails, it was the people at the WORKER LEVEL - they are just as culpable because THEY did the leg work. I suspect that half of them are flaming Leftists, so they’re all-in on this crap - but the OTHER HALF is likely afraid to speak up - those are the ones that need to be dealt with, with a carrot and a stick.


51 posted on 05/13/2018 11:06:03 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Kaslin

Bttt.

5.56mm


52 posted on 05/13/2018 11:12:26 AM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Kaslin

It is a pathetic joke that many of our “leaders” (and their followers ) are criminals and seditionist traitors .


53 posted on 05/13/2018 11:59:48 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: thirst4truth

Trumps lawyers have concluded if Trump were to declassify everything, they would then come after him for obstruction of justice

I heard it on Rush, his lawyers are currently Stuck on Stupid, If Half or more of the Leadership of both parties were Arrested and Charged with Treason, along with the entire DOJ,FBI,CIA from the previous Administration, and everyone else involved including Hillary and company and the MEDIA types that participated, there would only be Sessions left to claim Obstruction of Justice.


54 posted on 05/13/2018 12:35:03 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Psalm 144

Agree emphatically!


55 posted on 05/13/2018 3:11:27 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: discostu

Hillary Clinton. FBI files.


56 posted on 05/13/2018 3:13:29 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Kaslin

Can we say 0bama?


57 posted on 05/13/2018 6:15:28 PM PDT by okie 54
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To: lapsus calami

That’s along the same lines I’ve been thinking BobL - this ain’t their first rodeo at using intel resources against political opponents. It was probably so routine that they were predisposed to sloppiness at covering any tracks - typical of bureaucrat schmucks.

*************

Spot on. Not at all unlike their weaponizing the IRS against conservatives. Just doing what they’ve done for a long time.

Bureaucrats have no ethical problems when it comes to defending their fiefdoms and careers. Power corrupts.


58 posted on 05/14/2018 5:56:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: BobL

You make a very good point: “the boys and girls at the top levels were corrupt - but they weren’t the ones intercepting the phone calls and E-Mails.”

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Nunes should have made it widely known that he was going to go down the food chain looking for the operators who carried out the illegal assignments. Once the underlings perceive their exposure and personal vulnerability to legal charges, some of them would start turning to protect their jobs and keep them out of jail.

Drilling down would also make some of the boys and girls at the top levels become a little more forthcoming knowing that those beneath them might be providing damaging information about the orders they were giving.


59 posted on 05/14/2018 6:03:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kaslin

btt


60 posted on 05/14/2018 6:04:38 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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