Keys dropped in drain:
Posted on 05/13/2018 8:55:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven
On a summer morning last year, Fred Schaub drove his Toyota RAV4 into the garage attached to his Florida home and went into the house with the wireless key fob, evidently believing the car was shut off. Twenty-nine hours later, he was found dead, overcome with carbon monoxide that flooded his home while he slept.
“After 75 years of driving, my father thought that when he took the key with him when he left the car, the car would be off,” said Mr. Schaub’s son Doug.
Mr. Schaub is among more than two dozen people killed by carbon monoxide nationwide since 2006 after a keyless-ignition vehicle was inadvertently left running in a garage. Dozens of others have been injured, some left with brain damage.
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” I sometimes forget to even shut off the car. “
If one cannot even turn off a major piece of machinery when finished using it, one should not be using it.
“Wouldn’t you want a limited range so the car would turn off when you left?”
What range and how do you determine range?
...fair point. Probably went too far.
“What are the benefits that exceed the potential hazards?”
I keep my fob on my belt and it doesn’t get lost.
“Sorry. What are the benefits that exceed the potential hazards?”
I keep my fob on my belt so no way I can lock my keys in the car!
I have a hard time thinking that this is a keyless ignition problem. This is simply a failure to turn off the damn car. Cars are supposed to beep if you open the door while the key is in the ignition. They are also supposed to beep if you get out of a running keyless ignition car. In any case, devices fail and people make mistakes. Nanny can’t be there for every danger. What about the building code requirement that attached garages must be fume proof? Do we ban garages, keyless ignitions or impaired people?
Me too and yes, it beeps.
Keys dropped in drain:
How many stories have we seen where someone got out of their car and locked the doors while leaving the key in the ignition and the car running ...
I guess i’m an idiot since I park my two keyless Mercedes Benz and my keyless Corvette in my three car garage.
“Duh, i’m too stooopid to shut off the car.”
“I imagine these are the same people would stand in a shower while shaving with an electric razor.”
Do they even make plug-in razors anymore?
Eventually, the technology will get to the point where people can start their cars with their retinas or fingerprints - much like they do with cell phones. Keys will soon be an anachronism. But a few will still have them much like people still get those classic "retro" rotary phones.
Good point. Perhaps give a verbal and display warning with a “Push button to keep going” option?
If you still have to carry around a key fob, then what’s the purpose of it being keyless?
My car will make a beep if you exit it with the fob and the engine is still running... and after 15 minutes or so of beeping will shut itself off if the fob does not return to being in the car.
What a stupid question. We have two vehicle with keyless ignition that get parked in the garage. There is nothing inherently wrong with doing so. First of all, each vehicle alerts us when we get out with an audible signal if the engine is still running. Second, there is no path for exhaust fumes to enter the house from the garage unless the door is left open, which it never is. It's also got self-closing hinges. Thirdly, there are several CO detectors inside the house. I didn't work hard to buy a house with a garage just to leave my vehicles outside in Alaska winter conditions. Get clue.
Do a YouTube search on "Hyundai suicide commercial" One of those commercials that never actually aired.
I guess the elderly are rich enough to have new cars. I don’t have to worry because my mom mobile is 10 years old. Lol.
“If you still have to carry around a key fob, then what’s the purpose of it being keyless?”
I keep mine on my belt.
You don’t have to pull it out to:
Open the trunk
Open the doors
Start the car
I can’t lock it in the car with the car running
I won’t drop it in the drain
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