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To: miss marmelstein

I certainly know the implications of the word “commoner” in the Brit system. You are missing my point about the difference between manmade titles and biological bloodlines, nor did I plagarize any post from Closer Magazine (GailA posted it, I merely commented on it as posted); but it doesn’t matter. You like to debate in black and white, absolute terms. I am more interested in shades of meaning. Therefore we may rarely agree on matters of historical dispute, such as whether or not Queen Charlotte was actually part black or whether it was the fake news of the day. Either is possible, but I really don’t care about it. Religion is what matters.


84 posted on 05/21/2018 8:26:43 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: Albion Wilde

To be honest, I don’t understand your post. I don’t understand this stuff about “black and white” in particular. I am only posting what is defined in the British peerage system. Somehow it seems peculiarly American to rewrite how the Brits strictly define royalty, aristocracy and commoners. But it isn’t all that important, so let’s drop it.


85 posted on 05/21/2018 9:21:27 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Albion Wilde; miss marmelstein
The word "ROYAL", ONLY applies to members, by birth, of "ROYAL" households...discounting MORGANISTIC marriages and progeny from such.

The Arch Duke Franz-Ferdinand and heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, had such a union and therefore, his children had NO claim, whatsoever, to the throne, if the monarchy had survived WW I!

Being an aristo, in any nation, but especially in the UK, in 2018,has absolutely NO bearing on being a "ROYAL"; not to mention some many centuries back, legit or wrong side of the sheets, a birth to some long ago ROYAL was! ERGO, NO aristo is a "ROYAL", but IS a "commoner"!

And the whole stupid "QUEEN CHARLOTTE WAS BIRACIAL" crap is not only specious CRAP, but patently ridiculous!

The press in Great Britain, during the time King George III was alive ( and afterwards too ), was as brutal, if not more so, than what we have in the USA today! Political cartoons were vicious; even MORE vicious than today's FAKE NEWS and tweets! And before you claim that this stuff only reached a few, please allow me to disabuse you of that idea. This crude and yes, vulgar stuff was EVERYWHERE and because they were cartoons, even the illiterate could understand what the pictures meant, even though they couldn't read the words.

Di and Kate were/are commoners and "IF" somehow related to the ROYAL family, many, many, many, many generations back ( and far removed from the House of Windsors !), it's so far back, as to be completely removed from "consanguinity", that a claim of "INBRED" is beyond laughable in the extreme!

And FYI...the late Queen Mother ( Elizabeth II's mother ) was also a "commoner", though an aristo!

86 posted on 05/21/2018 12:26:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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