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How 16 ships create as much pollution as all the cars in the world
DailyMail ^ | 21 November 2009

Posted on 05/23/2018 11:45:07 AM PDT by rey

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To: datura

Why are tariffs a bad thing? Better than the income tax. What’s the aversion to tariff in the USA? THE REST OFF THE WORLD USES/HAS THEM.


41 posted on 05/23/2018 12:58:07 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: rey

You know, if everyone would agree to be poor and/or die, all these problems would go away.


42 posted on 05/23/2018 1:00:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm.)
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To: Red Badger

43 posted on 05/23/2018 1:00:35 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: the_daug

The enviros hate nuclear energy just as much as coal, oil and natural gas.

They want us to use wind and solar, exclusively.....................


44 posted on 05/23/2018 1:03:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ping.


45 posted on 05/23/2018 1:06:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: DoughtyOne

Have they plugged that Hawaiian volcano yet?

How many other volcanoes cookin’ off on any given day?


46 posted on 05/23/2018 1:10:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: central_va
Why are tariffs a bad thing?

Agreed - tariffs are used all over. Trade agreements between two or more countries are nothing but pre-agreed tariff and quota levels on a huge range of products. If we wanted true free trade we would have no trade agreements at all. There definitely is no such thing as a "free trade agreement."

The only issue with tactically applied tariffs is that the trade environment can change unpredictably for producers, importers and exporters which can perturb their businesses, employees and markets.

47 posted on 05/23/2018 1:16:01 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: onedoug

There you go.

I don’t know if we should mention this to Leftists or not.

They’re such a brittle bunch.

In a few hours, those volcanoes will probably emit more emissions than humans do in a couple of centuries.


48 posted on 05/23/2018 1:20:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Wuli

The cost of nuclear maintenance would be far too much for any shipping company.

The reason there are few accidents is because the standards for nuclear plant safety are far above any other machines on earth. To weld a single pipe requires certified welders with security clearance, certified materials and multiple tests/inspections by licensed engineers.

It would also be a target for state sponsored terrorists/pirates so security would need to be at a military level.

Until nuclear is made inherently safe and impossible to be used by terrorists, it will never be profitable in private ships. One bad accident can irradiate an entire continent.


49 posted on 05/23/2018 1:40:49 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Big ships at sea burn DFM or #1 Diesel. Its ran thru centrifugal purifiers and service filters before its put into the engines because just one of the pistons of one of the engines in a vessel like this costs more than your family made last decade. If it was purchased out of the US it is probly hi in sulfur, but the fuel used to move the worlds ships around the ocean is pristeenly clean.


50 posted on 05/23/2018 1:51:33 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: rey; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Slight” over-hyped-exaggeration alert! (Naturally. By another eco-warrier writer.)


51 posted on 05/23/2018 2:30:19 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Red Badger

Yup.
Chain these winners to an oar for fifteen years and they’ll sing a different tune.


52 posted on 05/23/2018 2:38:42 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: rey

Wait.

Aren’t these the same crop of Malthusian views who spent the entire decade of the 1970’s howling about overpopulation and clamoring for ZPG?


53 posted on 05/23/2018 2:42:24 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Delta 21
The new 2020 ultra low sulfur rules will be enforced in two years. While burning bunker fuel seems like burning asphalt, almost all Western companies now burn a cleaner fuel to keep from fouling their engines.

And replacing a Wärtsilä engine does not make ship owners happy.

So is this article already out of date? Sure seems so.

https://gcaptain.com/shippings-2020-low-sulphur-fuel-rules-explained/

54 posted on 05/23/2018 2:46:12 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: rey

If we manufactured more and China less our factories create less pollution than China’s. And no shipping pollution.

Environmentalists should be supporting the tariffs.


55 posted on 05/23/2018 3:37:08 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Jim 0216

Liberals cry about “thousands of deaths because of the filthy fuel”, but don’t bat an eye at millions of abortions.


56 posted on 05/23/2018 3:38:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: rey

Usual leftist eco-propagandists ...

I simply say to THEM and anyone following their writings :

IF YOU HAVENT GIVEN UP YOUR CAR, YOUR AIR CONDITIONING, YOUR WINTER HEATING, YOUR HOLIDAYS IN DISTANT LANDS — *YOU* ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND A HYPOCRITE.

(it is usually at that point they start shrieking insults and run away VERY fast).


57 posted on 05/23/2018 3:59:32 PM PDT by elbook
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To: datura
Requiring shipping companies to use cleaner fuels such as diesel or LNG, all of a sudden the costs to ship goods from China to the US helps level the playing field without tariffs. Win - win.

Let the Enviro’s help us for a change!

Good luck enforcing that in international waters. Ships could be "dual-fuel" capable, though - just switch tanks to the cleaner stuff as you approach coastal areas.

58 posted on 05/23/2018 5:58:28 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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59 posted on 05/23/2018 7:41:36 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Nachoman

Maybe the greenies can pass a law requiring all volcanoes have catalytic converters.


60 posted on 05/23/2018 9:01:13 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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