Posted on 05/24/2018 10:22:04 AM PDT by Steely Tom
What's goin' all ya'll. Chidi Dillibe back with another video. Just want to have a little brief talk about... kind of a summation of this whole "Monk" debate that took place a couple days ago between... mainly between Michael Eric Dyson and Jordan B. Peterson. There were two others involved, Michelle Goldberg and Steven Fry, but I'm not really going to get into the comments which they said, I think the crux of it really falls between the two individuals, Michael Eric Dyson and Jordan Peterson...
0:34 the whole debate was really kind of centered around political correctness and I think it's kind of like the... the title of it was What You Call Political Correctness I Call Progress, and basically to say that... Jordan Peterson's side of it was saying that political correctness gets in the way of actually healthy dialog, the reason being is that when you have a group of people, which we know today as the modern-day leftists, determining what you can say, where you can it, which group of people... basically, non-whites are the ones that can speak about certain things; if you're white you can't speak about certain things.
When you have people determining what you can and cannot say, it doesn't allow for a healthy dialog that leads to an actual healthy result. That's basically the crux of Jordan Peterson's point.
1:25 Michael Eric Dyson... = sigh = to say he's making points... he's trying to make some points, but nonetheless, he's of course saying that political correctness is leading us to the conversation that we would need to get to, the progress we need to get to.
1:41 But it really didn't get down to that because as Jordan Peterson, who's one of... if you've watched his videos, he's one of the most mild-mannered... he's a humble guy, he's an intellectual but he's also the same kind of guy that you can sit down and have coffee with and have a discussion, you don't clearly feel like you're talking to a guy who's PhD educated, you feel like you're talking to somebody who you can relate to and have a conversation with.
2:06 The difference with Michael Eric Dyson is Michael Eric Dyson is one of those guys, and if you've seen any of his videos, if you've seen any of his talks, it doesn't matter what he's on, whether he's doing a speech, or whether he's on a segment on MSNBC... he uses big words, he likes to bloviate, he likes to pontificate ad nauseum, and say things like that to stress, and to make you know and understand that he's an intellectual.
2:29 And these are the dangerous people, because these are the people who think they're so smart, that they're right.
2:35 And that's one thing that just turns me off about them, like... regardless of whatever your point is the fact that you're using all these big words, to try and kind of almost drown people out, like hey, I'm using such big words that you know I'm right because look how smart I sound, where that doesn't ... that's not really important.
2:54 And to me, I feel it's kind of a complex. He's kind of trying to make up for something. Because if you know you're smart, if you know you have knowledge, and if you know you have wisdom, then you don't need to rely on using big words to try and woo people over to your side, or make people feel that you're astute in what you say... either you know the truth, either you speak with logic and reason, or you don't. Big words don't matter.
3:16 So, that's another reason why I like Jordan Peterson, he just speaks to you like the common man, he doesn't speak to you like this high-minded intellectual.
3:27 And really, I'd just like to keep this video short...
3:28 The crux of it really broke down when... as Jordan Peterson is making his explanations on why he thinks the way he thinks about political correctness and the movement at large, Michael Eric Dyson comes at the... like... "Well bro, you're just an angry white man."
3:47 That's when everything kind of goes off the rails a little bit, because Michael Eric Dyson is a guy who's obviously worked hard, he's put in the hard work to get a PhD, he teaches at Georgetown University, that's a very privledged position, to be honest with you. I don't know many people who are able to get a teaching position at Georgetown University, and be able to... I think he's actually... came in and filled in for hosts on MSNBC, when certain people can't make it on their show, and so he's a very privledged guy, but then he condemns Jordan Peterson for his privledge.
4:22 I don't know many blacks who are in the position that Michael Eric Dyson is in, making the amount of money that Michael Eric Dyson makes but he speaks against Jordan Peterson, saying that you're a privledged... you know, you're an angry white male.
4:35 And so Jordan B. Peterson... Michael Eric Dyson is saying Jordan B. Peterson, it doesn't matter what you're saying, you know, you're position is not important, it doesn't matter, because you're an angry white male, so how dare you assert and speak against political correctness, who do you think you are, you're white and you're angry, you see.
4:55 But, you know...
4:59 The black angry man, who's an intellectual, or who has a PhD, the black angry man who speaks out against a certain topic of the day... you can't call him angry, he's passionate. See, there's the difference, there.
5:07 And see, this is part of the problem.
5:09 Michael Eric Dyson made Jordan B. Peterson's point right then and there. That political correctness gets in the way of healthy dialog.
5:19 Jordan Peterson is making points, he's making sound arguments to clarify, and make his points understood, and Michael Eric Dyson's response to that is "in my opinion, you're angry and your white, therefore bro, you're invalid."
Why are you even... you shouldn't even really be talking, you should be happy that you're white, and that you're viral, and people like you and people want to hear what you have to say... you should just be happy. You shouldn't even need to comment on the topic political correctness.
5:58 Which to me is extremely offensive because once again, it clearly states that what Jordan B. Peterson is talking about is proved in fact, that political correctness gets in the way of healthy dialog.
6:17 And I'll end the video on this. What it really seems like to me is that when Michael Eric Dyson... there's some envy going on.
6:26 I don't think he would ever mention it, I don't think he'd ever be bold enough and honest enough to say it, but I think that... Michael Eric Dyson has... has some... he's gone viral in the sense that he has this position, he's able to go on the debate, he has this TV show, he's written books and he's sold a lot of copies of books, and there's a lot of people both in the black community and in the left at large that respect Michael Eric Dyson, so he's viral in a sense, but he's not as viral, white hot, burning, off the charts like Jordan Peterson is right now and so there's some envy to that, and people respect what Jordan Peterson has to say, they'd like to hear what Jordan Peterson has to say, he's on BBC, he's on CNN, he's on Fox News, he's on all these different interviews, he's in all these articles, and Michael Eric Dyson right now is not.
7:13 And that, to me, him coming on and saying you're an angry white man, exposes his envy of Jordan B. Peterson. And that's sad, because you can't have a healthy debate with somebody if there's envy in your heart. You have to let that go, and just have the discussion.
7:30 so... just to wrap it up, I believe that Jordan B. Peterson won the debate, and when you look at the end result in the debate, more people thought that political correctness was actually a problem, so... you know, the reality of it was, it wasn't just the fact that I thought Jordan Peterson asserted his position better... the people that were there at that debate, and the people that voted said that he did it better too.
7:51 So... political correctness, we've got to get rid of that, 'cause it just gets in the way of people having healthy dialog and actually getting to an end result where we can get some understanding and try and find some kind of common ground. It's pretty hard as a conservative to find common ground with the left, but there are pockets where we may be able to find some, but political correctness will destroy any chance of that.
8:09 Anyways guys, that's my time. Thanks for watching the video, all you you have "liked" on previous videos and subscribed, I appreciate you. If you're watching this video please subscribe if you don't mind... I'll see you on the next one. I'm out.
This debate, which was posted on YouTube on 18 May 2018, is more than two hours long, and Mr. Dillibe has done a great service by watching the whole thing and distilling its essence down into a short video.
Mr. Dillibe has (in my view) promising potential as an African-American Conservative, and may go far.
Dyson is a racist and an idiot.
Dyson really has that special speech pattern down, where he is explicitly majestic, and brilliant and mellifluous and authentic. He just loves the wonderful sound of his own words. I guess he doesn’t realize that he sounds like a moron.
That line of reasoning isn't going to change many minds or win over any converts.
Mr. Dillibe is too discrete to say what that "something" might be, but if you listen to his video I think you will agree that the "something" is called "intellectual inadequacy."
Political Correctness:
Tyranny wrapped in a cloak of common decency
It’s only the truth.
Dyson’s argument style has been accurately described as “word salad with B.S. dressing.”
Hey! I want my click back!
I came here wondering what was controversial about Tony Shaloob.
the survey at the end of the debate:
https://www.munkdebates.com/The-Debates/Political-Correctness
It’s part way down the page
E = mc2 is also the truth, but just stating the equation it doesn't help anyone understand why it's the truth.
re Dyson is a racist and an idiot.
Byson is a bloviating fool who is likely a product of the quota system. He demonstrates the use of word salad and personal attacks as a substitute for reason, logic and facts
Yeah, he’s a master at sound really great while saying nothing whatsoever of substance.
I watched it on YouTube a while back. The comments section says it all. Dyson got owned. Nothin’ but Mr. Word salad.
Yup. Dyson used a lot of ten dollar words eloquently strung together to say - nothing.
The whole debate dances around an unspoken question: "Why do I need to care about not offending you?"
What if people start deciding that, no, minorities do NOT have the right to stifle speech they feel offended by? What if white people decide to say "screw you"?
It seemed Steven Fry was debating the wrong side at first, but he made up for it by pointing out Dyson’s oily hucksterism.
I lost count of how many times Dyson referred to himself as a “black intellectual”. As if repetition would make people believe it.
"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit."
Dyson admits it, too.
Short of the two hour debate, here is a 20 minute highlight reel of the interesting parts. Dyson, at some point, acknowledges Peterson's popularity and makes the comment that he wishes Peterson would tweet about Dyson's own book.
-PJ
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