Posted on 05/30/2018 6:05:48 PM PDT by Mafe
Today, all Americans are told, "Go to college!"
President Obama said, "College graduation has never been more valuable."
But economist Bryan Caplan says that most people shouldn't go.
"How many thousands of hours did you spend in classes studying subjects that you never thought about again?" he asks.
Lots, in my case. At Princeton, I learned to live with strangers, play cards and chase women, but I slept through boring lectures, which were most of them. At least tuition was only $2,000. Now it's almost $50,000. "People usually just want to talk about the tuition, which is a big deal, but there's also all the years that people spend in school when they could have been doing something else," points out Caplan in my new YouTube video.
"If you just take a look at the faces of students, it's obvious that they're bored," he says. "People are there primarily in order to get a good job."
That sounds like a good reason to go to college. But Caplan, in his new book, "The Case Against Education," argues that there's little connection between what we absorb in college and our ability to do a job.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
True...college can be good...but what i.have seen is lots of waywardness and drunkenness....just cause you got good grades doesnt mean you know how to apply that knowledge to real world problems...
And please stop wholesale taxpayer funded subsidies....the next cinematographer will most likely not save the world.
Mankind survived for thousands of years just talking. How many folks today really need to know how to read, write & cipher?
Best way of learning is to work and go to school at the same time.
We should restructure to school 2 days a week and work 3 days a week. Practical and educational going on together.
Maybe we should learn to read, write & cipher in grades 1-12?
If you go with the historical average the number is about 10% of the population. That's all that was necessary to service the very small percentage that represented the hereditary elite. Everyone else was dirt.
Our current elites seek to return mankind to that historic norm.
I think going to a top notch college can be a great move... if someone else pays the freight.
Exactly my point. I wouldn’t put it past today’s elites to have figured this out and begun acting on it already.
If you really want to see the value of a college education first hand and enjoy fantasy, work with a newly minted MBA!
My undergrad education was at a liberal arts college. I thought all the time I spent in liberal arts courses was a waste. I was going to be a physicist. Why did I have to take courses in history, government, literature, composition, and a foreign language?
Well, some fifty years later, I know why. I spent a career as a scientist, in and out of the Air Force. Those liberal arts courses have stood me in good stead over the years. My technical education taught me how to do something. My liberal education taught me why some things were worth doing and some were not. I wouldn't trade that liberal education for anything.
How about grades 1 - 8?
There was a time when high school was a privilege, not a right, which had to earned by passing an entrance examination.
I remember reading the bio of a lady who went through a rural Pennsylvania High School in the early 19th century who had 4 years of French, 4 years of Latin, 4 years of German, and 3 years of Greek.
That's a better education in languages than most collegians receive today.
For most, college is nothing more than daycare with sex and alcohol.
Wright brothers never went to college and their high school and grade school math gave them a superior understanding of mathematics and physics—more so than any colleges can today.
Math classes were excellent—even only six years of “education” gave you superior English and math skills prior to the evil communist John Dewey who, along with the Fabian Socialists, destroyed American “education” for social engineering and mass indoctrination and Pavlovian conditioning into socialism (anti-Christian ideology). Ben Franklin was done with “school” by age 12 and probably started school at 8. Thomas Jefferson was in law school by 16 or so and he was excellent in math, and other languages, plus superior in English skills. He was tutored.
Orville and Wilber didn’t need “college” math to figure out that all the physics and mathematics concerning flight on gliders, etc. was WRONG......because they went to schools that taught Classical math/English, etc.—not the dumbed-down system Dewey put in to destroy the minds of children (on purpose).
John Saxon created a Math curriculum in the 80s or so because he was SHOCKED at how stupid the grade school/high school system made everyone in math-— that children graduating from high school were ignorant when it came to mathematics and worse in physics. A lot of homeschool children use the Saxon Method.
The school system destroys virtue formation in children intentionally, so they can never be good at anything-—no virtue—no ability to learn and master anything.
WSJ did an article last week that said 101 Americans owe more than $1 million in federal student loans.
I knew there was a reason I hated the Dewey Decimal System when I was learning how to navigate a library when I was a kid.
Just what did he do? That's all we learned about; never anything about the man.
“...Orville and Wilbur didn’t need “college” math to figure out that all the physics and mathematics concerning flight on gliders, etc. was WRONG......because they went to schools that taught Classical math/English, etc.—not the dumbed-down system Dewey put in to destroy the minds of children (on purpose). …”
The Wright Brothers did not turn the entire science of aeronautics upside down because they had undergone some (allegedly superior) pre-Deweyian instruction in mathematics, nor in physics. Cheerleading for some pre-Progressive notion of education on the basis of what they did is not only historically inaccurate, it’s an intellectually dishonest, underhanded attempt puff up the education system of the latter 1/3 of the 19th century by infusing it with virtues it did not possess.
The Wright Brothers possessed talents and fought their way to insights marking them as innovators at a level of genius no system of learning could conceive of - neither then nor now. And they were at bottom practical empirical sorts, willing to take results of actual experiments at face value when they contradicted “Settled Science” and the weight of Accepted Authority.
There wasn’t a whole lot of science in those days anyway, in aerodynamics. So they did not have to go very far to extend the body of knowledge and the sum total of understanding. We have to remember that human understanding of physics was still in a primitive state circa 1900: atomic theory did not yet exist, and no one knew how or why gases remained gaseous, liquids flowed as they did, nor how solids kept their shapes. And “Classical” math was very shortly found to have no applicability to physics, as the explanation of the photoelectric effect and the theories of quantum mechanics became codified.
On top of being very careful observers, the Wrights were in a sense fearless experimenters. Their invention of the wind tunnel revolutionized the study of aerodynamics to a degree almost impossible to overstate, down to this very day. Having found on the “open market” no readily available powerplants of sufficient performance and low enough weight to meet their requirements, they designed their own gasoline engine - the like of which had not been seen up until then - and had a major share in the process of its actual manufacture.
But their real genius lay in the flash of inspiration that the “secret” of powered flight lay in controllability: they found they had to control their machine in all three axes of motion, and they invented systems to let them do so. It was an insight that no other airplane inventor of that period truly understood until years after the Wrights had been flying in public, repeatedly wowing crowds at home and in Europe with their prowess and precision.
From these advances grew the entire modern discipline of systems engineering - an activity as indispensable to aircraft design as aerodynamics. The nation was fortunate that there were enough other scientists and engineers around whose thinking was flexible enough to grasp what the Wrights had done, and whose egoes were not so big that they were unable to begin to do their part in advancing the art and science. In spite of such favorable initial conditions, progress remained painful, slow, and punctuated with danger. When we speak of moving objects like airplanes, the risk never goes away completely.
Not one bit of it had anything to do with Christianity, nor with “virtue formation” as conservatives are pleased to ballyhoo it. To claim otherwise is to attempt to hitch a ride on the coattails of people who actually did something. An unpaid ride.
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Masters in business
Ok kids ?
GET A REAL DEGREE STUDY A REAL SUBJECT
IGNORE OR CONFRONT ( fun ) LEFT WING HACKS
Yes very true, but I have also seen that at work. ”what i.have seen is lots of waywardness and drunkenness”
Best math ever! If you're a parent and want to homeschool your kids, use the Saxon program. It's easy to teach, and very good at the fundementals.
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