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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I'm a classic liberal. The Libertarian party has nothing to do with libertarianism/classic liberal.

The Libertarian party today is more of a new type of socialism then it has anything to do with capitalism. Using their own scale the party itself would be in the middle left quadrant.

27 posted on 06/08/2018 11:56:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The Libertarian party today is more of a new type of socialism then it has anything to do with capitalism. Using their own scale the party itself would be in the middle left quadrant.

Balderdash. I'm not a member of LPUSA, and although their most recent Presidential candidate—and especially their candidate for Vice President—might fit that description, the fact is that much of the rank and file party membership were furious with those choices, and staunchly believe in free enterprise, the Second Amendment (not to mention the rest of the Bill of Rights), original intent (for instance they despise the perversion of the Commerce Clause, just as conservatives do), and many of them are also more hawkish on national defense than one might think.

No member of any political party agrees 100% with that party's national platform—except Democrats, of course—but to call the LPUSA (whose ticket Ron Paul has run for President on) "left" or "socialist" in any significant way is simply an absurd smear. The LPUSA certainly hates socialism more than the GOP, it would appear.

For instance, replace all GOP members of Congress with LPUSA "whackos", and see if things like Obamacare and the Progressive Income Tax aren't repealed in a New York minute. Socialism, my -ss.

Indeed, one of the reasons Donald Trump won the Presidency in 2016 was that disenchanted libertarians and LPUSA members ignored the Johnson/Weld ticket and instead voted for Donald J. Trump in droves—even though in many case some had significant philosophical reservations. I mean let's be honest—President Trump isn't exactly an expert on the Constitution, or even a student of it...

28 posted on 06/09/2018 12:13:39 AM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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