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Congress’ Threats Lack Teeth And DOJ Knows It
Big League Politics ^ | 6/16/2018 | Larry Schweikart

Posted on 06/17/2018 8:12:01 AM PDT by bitt

In the war over documents between the House and Senate committees investigating the FBI and other intelligence abuses and the FBI/Department of Justice, you might wonder why Congress keeps whining. After all, they say “We asked for these documents a year ago and still don’t have them!” “Why weren’t these sections included in what we requested?” And so on.

You have probably heard that Congress has “oversight” powers over these executive departments and agencies. In a sense that’s true, although there was no Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1789. Indeed, there is no Department of Justice mentioned in the Constitution (and it didn’t appear until 1870—interestingly, recent scholarship suggests, not so much as to handle all the leftover Civil War cases but to streamline and reduce the size of government). The first Attorney General, Edmund Randolph, took office in September 1789 after Congress passed the Judiciary Act of 1789 that created the Office of the Attorney General. It is tenuously through that Act that Congress maintains any control at all over the AG’s office, the staff of which is appointed by the president with the advice and consent of the U.S. Senate.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; doj; dojdocs; igreport
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To: Reily

You probably have not. It is likely with the higher agencies first where I am.


41 posted on 06/17/2018 11:40:43 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: PeterPrinciple
sometimes it is ok to play with your food before you kill it.................

Trump does have a slight resemblance to a Cheshire Cat.


42 posted on 06/17/2018 11:49:53 AM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: DarthVader

“Higher agencies” you located on a hill or something?


43 posted on 06/17/2018 12:24:40 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Pelham

He’s got a strategy I believe.


44 posted on 06/17/2018 1:07:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: semantic

Trump has to assess the proper timing.

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Timing is favorable right now. He has a reservoir of political capital coming off the heels of the NK Summit and the strong U.S. economic performance since his election.

There are other positives as well, but the beneficial wind behind his back right now is that the DOJ and FBI have been exposed through congressional investigations and the release of the IG findings that he can highlight. The timing is good for cleaning out those rogue agencies.

People are well aware of the corruption within the executive branch and rightly expect the president to do something about it. You may disagree but bad things have a way of getting worse if left unchecked. Nobody stopped Obama and we came perilously close to seeing our country turned into a police state.

I don’t think the timing for Trump could be much better than it is now. He has the Bully Bulpit and should go before the American people and make the case for cleaning house. It would also be consistent with his oft repeated promise to Drain the Swamp. Its what he was elected to do.


45 posted on 06/17/2018 1:10:05 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: McGavin999

If they can pass that, then they could also pass legislation abolishing civil service protection for DOJ and FBI employees, and give the president the authority to fire any or all of them.

Then Trump could just perform a decimation. “All employees whose social security number ends in 5 are hereby terminated”.


46 posted on 06/17/2018 1:13:18 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Starboard

“He has the Bully Bulpit and should go before the American people and make the case for cleaning house”.

I’ve thought for a long time that he will do exactly that.

Your post is very good.


47 posted on 06/17/2018 1:31:59 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: DarthVader
They also now have just been given the criminal oversight of the use/misuse of Federal Information. As of this past Monday

That is good news, and supports the implications of Gowdy's remark, "We will use the full force of the Constitution..."

Congress has the power ... (Clause 15:) To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

48 posted on 06/17/2018 1:41:10 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: eyeamok; Cboldt; LS
Nobody is agreeing or disagreeing with eyeamok.

Unfortunately there is Already PRECEDENCE for the Sergeant at Arms to ARREST ANYONE ANYWHERE, see Hinds Precedents.....

49 posted on 06/17/2018 1:54:01 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: bitt

Please see “US vs Nixon (1974)”.

This was a 9 - 0 SCOTUS decision during Pres. Nixon’s impeachment on the Watergate tapes.

There is no executive branch privilege of any sort from a Congressional Impeachment investigation.

Not “classification.”

Not “Sources and Methods”.

Not “Presidential Executive Privilege.”

Not Attorney-client Privilege between Federal executive branch lawyers and the President.

It is all on the table.

Only the paid personal lawyers to the President are not covered by “US vs Nixon (1974)”.

If Asst AG Rosenstein is impeached, the House gets every single document it requested with no redaction’s.

Impeachment is the thermonuclear weapon of the Constitution for the Congress to use against either or both the Executive or Judicial Branches.


50 posted on 06/17/2018 1:56:43 PM PDT by Dark Wing (terrorism, disease, public health)
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To: Dark Wing
This was a 9 - 0 SCOTUS decision during Pres. Nixon’s impeachment on the Watergate tapes. There is no executive branch privilege of any sort from a Congressional Impeachment investigation.

Does the House have the nerve to impeach RR? Plus the GOP may lose some House seats in the midterms.

51 posted on 06/17/2018 2:01:40 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Does the House have the nerve to impeach RR? Plus the GOP may lose some House seats in the midterms.

How many electoral votes did RR win, again?

52 posted on 06/17/2018 2:08:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: meadsjn

Ditto!


53 posted on 06/17/2018 2:26:50 PM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: McGavin999

“Money talks, BS walks.”


54 posted on 06/17/2018 2:31:46 PM PDT by Kalamata (bibleresearchtools.com)
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To: grey_whiskers

Not sure I understand your point. The House can impeach executive branch office holders other than the POTUS.


55 posted on 06/17/2018 2:53:56 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: bitt

Trump potentially could start firing them for not complying - time to clear out all the obama appointees and anyone THEY appointed.

You drain a swamp with a bulldozer, not a shovel.


56 posted on 06/17/2018 3:07:43 PM PDT by elbook
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To: Starboard; Electric Graffiti; Rome2000
The bottom line is that I trust Trump. We have become conditioned - not just the US but also the world - to equivocating mediocrities like Bush, Merkel, et al. Great leaders, for either the good or bad, make their marks on history. Typically, they are highly intelligent, posses incredible energy, understand history/politics/government/war and have a sanguine - almost fatalistic - disposition towards the right time and place to make a decisive move.

I've said this many, many times, but Trump holds all the cards. I happen to believe he is 100% in charge of what is unfolding, and is allowing events to take place at his leisure. I know others like EG hold a more alarming opinion, but my confidence is based on my expectation of military support.

I think Trump is allowing the judicial process to play itself out fully to whatever extent is possible with that corrupt branch. If it ultimately produces the desires results, then Trump/we will have won taking the easy path. But the hard way is still left in reserve. Lincoln had the 'nads to take the nation to war. The huge question is does Trump? I think he does.

It simply makes no logical sense to me why anyone would have gone through all this tremendous time and effort to simply throw up their hands when victory is so close and say "no mas". If calling out the militia and/or military to defend the nation against real and present existential dangers is the only remaining course of action to achieve MAGA, then I assume Trump will be able to do what is necessary.

57 posted on 06/17/2018 3:29:39 PM PDT by semantic
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To: eyeamok

Good luck trying to arrest RR.


58 posted on 06/17/2018 4:48:41 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendix))
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To: bitt

and since the boss won’t fire them they keep getting away with it


59 posted on 06/17/2018 4:51:25 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

FREEPmail.


60 posted on 06/17/2018 5:02:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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