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To: ClearCase_guy

There are very real environmental issues that are no doubt human caused, and require human solutions.... and yes the conservative movement sadly has been lacking on many of them.

Not all environmental issues are boogiemen.

I live in W. PA, I see first hand the impact of Acid Mine Runoff, and the fact that remediation of it is a low priority and has huge impact. Plastic in the water and food cycles is another completely man made problem that should be getting priority to solve but isn’t... and yes some of those solutions may require the involvement of bans to stop making the damn things that are causing the problems.

Phosphates were banned, life went on and water quality drastically imrpoved. Lead based additives were banned from gasoline and the entire world is better for it. Lead has been banned from household paints since 1978 and that’s a good thing.

The knee jerk reaction, by some, to actions that are clearly needed when it comes to the environment is truly disheartening. When its things that are based on false and manipulated data, and unprovable claims... no, that’s not a reason for drastic measures, but when something is undeniably causing health and environmental issues, government action is required.

Good Stewardship of God’s Creation is our duty, and in our own self interest. Sadly, real issues, don’t get dealt with because one side is trying to scream about something that isn’t true, and the other is screaming things that are true aren’t.


11 posted on 06/18/2018 10:06:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Your post says that there are, in fact, real environmental issues.
I agree.

You say that Conservatives should work toward solutions for appropriate issues.
I agree.

Benji identifies these problems:
irrational plans such as bailing out the coal industry or drilling within our cherished National Parks

I say that the Clintons and Obamas of the world tried to kill the US coal industry and this was a bad mistake. Trump is trying to revive Coal. I'm not sure "bailing out" is an appropriate term. But I want US Coal to thrive.

And I have NO PROBLEM with drilling in National Parks.

Do you think Benji is making good points? Or are you just saying the Environment matters?

17 posted on 06/18/2018 10:23:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Yes, I get it - racism is bad and mutual respect and inclusion is good. But value Truth too.)
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To: HamiltonJay
"...The knee jerk reaction, by some, to actions that are clearly needed when it comes to the environment is truly disheartening. When its things that are based on false and manipulated data, and unprovable claims... no, that’s not a reason for drastic measures, but when something is undeniably causing health and environmental issues, government action is required..."

Valid point, but I seriously doubt that is what the author refers to.

When he says "Clean Energy" that is a proxy for the climate change crowd. I doubt he is talking about things like phosphates in detergent or even lead in gasoline.

The fact he meticulously avoided either of those phrases in his article is enough to give it the context I do.

19 posted on 06/18/2018 10:26:47 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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