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China Throws the Recycling Scam in the Trash - Greenfield
FrontPageMag ^ | July 12, 2018 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/12/2018 6:36:11 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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To: goodnesswins

I do a lot of business with Amazon and I am amazed at how they package stuff. Yesterday I received a new Microsoft Surface Pro, selling for almost two grand, and it was in the retail box that was inside a much larger box with just a piece of brown wrapping paper for stuffing and it was basically loose inside the bigger box and could have been easily damaged. On the other hand I routinely get orders for far less expensive items, some which would take a tank running over them to damage them, yet they are placed inside a box with loads of bubble wrap, the placed inside another box with lots of packaging paper, followed by yet a bigger box. Ironically this very thing also happened to an item that was advertised as “frustration free packaging”.


41 posted on 07/12/2018 7:57:36 AM PDT by TonyM (UPS)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Hawaiian Judge rules that China must resume processing American trash.


42 posted on 07/12/2018 8:03:01 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: cuban leaf

I can see recycling plastic because it lasts forever- but not paper, which turns back into earth.

But only in the most cost efficient manner. And never dumped into the ocean.


43 posted on 07/12/2018 8:03:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K

When you burn plastic, it “decomposes” a lot faster. :)


44 posted on 07/12/2018 8:03:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Step 1: Take mountains of “recyclables” that lefties want to get rid of and charge them for it.
Step 2: Burn the “recyclables” to power a steam turbine to generate electricity
Step 3: Use the electricity to run a BitCoin farm for more profit?


45 posted on 07/12/2018 8:04:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mr. K

I was just dumping out a box of used Keurig cups at work and thinking, if I had a bunch of those I could use them instead of gravel to fill the bottom of large plant pots . And with the holes in the cups, the water passing through would leech out the nutrients in the coffee grounds.

I have to give that a bit more thought, I think.


46 posted on 07/12/2018 8:06:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: CodeToad

I’d always thought it was a matter of same color (clear/brown/green), crush, melt, recast.

Diesel cost to me is a moot issue as the raw silica would need to be brought in to a production location as well for new glass.

The only real question then is the energy cost of sand clean and melt vs the energy cost of sort, clean, crush, glass melt.

I suppose the cost differential would vary based upon the locations proximity to a natural sand source.


47 posted on 07/12/2018 8:23:15 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: cuban leaf

Sounds like a winner to me! I’ve used styrofoam peanuts when I had them, but i don’t see them as much anymore. People tend to use bubble wrap now when shipping packages.


48 posted on 07/12/2018 8:46:51 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: wally_bert
Other than metal, I see no point in it.

Metal is about the only thing that does make sense, and that is because of the energy requirements to refine aluminum. Steel or iron, not so much.

49 posted on 07/12/2018 9:19:42 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have a bin for my beer cans and one for the empty whiskey bottles and they go to town. All of the other stuff gets a one way trip to the burning barrel out behind the shed.

One of the untold benefits of living in the country!


50 posted on 07/12/2018 9:20:42 AM PDT by technically right
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To: reed13k

Know of any glass manufacturers in your area??

There are only a few, so all that recycled glass has to be transported across the country. It is also volumetrically light, raw materials are dense and can be carried by railcar very economically. That lightweight recycled glass takes far more energy and fuel to transport than raw materials.

Removing the color and other materials in glass is also often a chemical process, so there’s that pollution and material transport as well.

Recycling glass has a negative economic and environmental affect.


51 posted on 07/12/2018 9:36:09 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: cuban leaf

My paper and plastics go into the wood stove. The returnables go to the local animal shelter. Everything else goes to the dump.


52 posted on 07/12/2018 10:07:18 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: TonyM

Amazon’s packaging used to be much better overall. That was probably before it became the retailing giant it is today. :-(


53 posted on 07/12/2018 10:50:21 AM PDT by ELS
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To: cuban leaf

Watching that right now.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/j0Hd6UfA4MKo/
The asian guy with the 15 bins out front is pretty funny.


54 posted on 07/12/2018 11:28:05 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie

The asian guy with the 15 bins out front is pretty funny.


Comedy wise, it’s the best part of the video. :)


55 posted on 07/12/2018 11:30:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
The Penn and Teller Bullsh** episode on Recycling is a must watch. I used to be an avid recycler. Not any more. I don’t do it at all.

What's the short version? It's all a scam? It just ends up in landfills anyway?

56 posted on 07/12/2018 8:25:32 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: null and void; aragorn; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; bgill; bitt; ...
PING

China Throws the Recycling Scam in the Trash Now you get to do the work that China won’t.

The huge dirty secret of recycling was also one of the world’s worst polluters.

Every branch of government from Washington D.C. to your local town council had spent a fortune convincing people that recycling is a magical process that turns your old pizza boxes into new pizza boxes while creating those imaginary “green jobs” in the community. The reality was a lot dirtier.

All of America’s industries, including trash sorting, had been outsourced to China.

And recycling is just a fancy lefty way of saying "trash."

All that recycling, which children in progressive communities are taught to sort as the closest thing to a religious ritual, was really being dumped by the ton on dirty ships and sent over to China.

We weren’t recycling it. The Chinese were.

But now China is banning foreign recycling because it’s bad for the environment.

Even the Communists got tired of sorting through the trash of American socialists.

The recycling scam shipped garbage on dirty ships for dirty industries while pretending that they’re clean and green.

There was never anything clean about it. And only the money it brought in was green.

Now the recycling party’s over.

Plastic recycling imports were banned early this year. Even fiber has trouble getting in to the People’s Republic. China’s mixed paper standards mean that most of the recycled cardboard and paper no longer passes muster. Instead it’s piling up in the United States.

The recycling scam used to be an easy trade. China shipped its cheap products made from recycled American junk and scrap here. The empty vessels used to dump Chinese junk products on America were then filled up with tons of recycling for the return trip back to China at minimal cost.

We sent them junk, they sent us junk. As the trade deficit grew, recycling was one of its many parasites.

But China is out of the recycling dump business. And the recycling business depended on it.

No other market pays what it did. And no other country has the industrial scale to handle this much recycled trash.

The American market is flooded with recycling that no one wants and trash prices have imploded.

And that’s having an immediate impact on the progressive recycling programs in the United States.

Check article for more info.

57 posted on 07/12/2018 10:23:41 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Boomer

Short version is:
1. that it is a waste of time and money - except for aluminum cans, which is why they pay you for them.
2. There really is not that much garbage.
3. Land fills in large cities actually become beautiful parks and are even a source of gas that is burned as a source of electric energy.
4. Using recycled paper is more harmful to the environment than creating paper from new plant material, and we grow the trees for it just like we grow corn and wheat.

Etc.


58 posted on 07/13/2018 5:19:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Recycling is not a reality, but an idea. Like Communism, it can never be achieved, but must be aspired to.

Exactly.

59 posted on 07/13/2018 5:26:30 AM PDT by corlorde
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To: SkyDancer
Takes more energy to recycle than the benefits from recycling; plus the products made from recycling are more expensive to produce and their cost.

And are often of lower quality.

60 posted on 07/13/2018 6:17:19 AM PDT by null and void (Freedom is in our blood, we don't pass it down genetically, but through the blood we spill.)
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