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Why Your State Should NOT Legalize Weed
Barbwire ^ | August 15, 2018 | Larry Tomczak

Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: dware

New Cartels, same as the old Cartels.


101 posted on 08/15/2018 10:21:00 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: John S Mosby

Like I said, I think smoking dope is stupid. I still think it should be legal and I love that video.

BTW, I didn’t touch the stuff until the december after high school, even though my friends did. The reason was that I thought it was bad for you.

In my senior year of high school I did a report on the evils of marijuana. I was shocked to learn that it was all propaganda. That made me ripe to try it a few months later at a party when an extremely hot chick convinced me to do it with her. That was 1972. My last toke was in 1977. I just didn’t like it any more. I only actually bought any once, btw. Two lids. The rest of the time I was just one of the guys it got passed to.


102 posted on 08/15/2018 10:22:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: chris37

Particularly those with chemically altered minds. For an anthropological view— see ancient Inca kingdom. The ruling kings of Incaland made sure the “sacred” cocaine leaf (and the chemically requisite lime from shells- needed to be ground in a powder and chewed with the raw leaf to release the alkaloid cocaine) was plentifully provided to the working peasant laborers of lower “classes”. Plentiful in addicting quantities for... life. A life of zero to no food (cause the coke took away any natural hunger for food) and worked for the Monarchy rulers until they died. Slave labor, fully supplied with cocaine, no food expense (more food for the Kings/royalty) and worked until they fell dead. Truth. Subject of many anthropologic studies.


103 posted on 08/15/2018 10:23:04 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
1) smoked cannabis has 100’s of proven carcinogens in the burned/chemically converted vegetables, oils, and cellulosic compounds in the plant. 100’s. Cancer, lung and other organ cancers. No mystery about this, and no filter (just like in tobacco) will filter it out.

I quit smoking cigarettes four years ago. Had a chest xray late last year. Docs congratulated me on how good my lungs looked, and for giving up cigarettes. Never mind that I've been using the other for almost 25 years now.

2.) UK breakthrough research (genomic) has ID’d gene markers inherited in different human population groups— markers that are shown to be altered. In pre-menopausal females with the inherited susceptibility to the environmental triggers, who smoke pot during and through adolescence into young adulthood (defined age)— statistically have significant development of frank schizophrenia. This from the UK (Scotland) and Tel Aviv University published studies (in TAU— Human Molecular Genetics peer reviewed medical journal). The summary phrase from the investigators: “”In other words, young people with a genetic susceptibility to schizophrenia — those who have psychiatric disorders in their families — should bear in mind that they’re playing with fire if they smoke pot during adolescence.” The genomic analysis of the marker regions has extended this definition to way beyond only those with “psychiatric disorders in their families” — to actual identification of the chromosomal regions which are triggered.

As mentioned previously, almost 25 years of use have resulted in zero mental or psychological issues. I am, for the most part, a well adjusted, middle aged, successful white collar manager making decent money, paying taxes, contributing positively to society, including being a donor to FR, all in the face of so-called "research".

104 posted on 08/15/2018 10:24:28 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: MortMan

I’m thinking Elijah Craig would be a good starting point.


105 posted on 08/15/2018 10:26:23 AM PDT by glock rocks (... so much win!)
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To: AppyPappy

My post was meant to be sarcastic. The swamp has lots of highly paid people working to enforce prohibitions of various things.

We should all be responsible for our own behavior. That is the essence of conservatism. If we drive while under the influence and cause harm, we should be held responsible. It is not the big government’s job to tell us what habits are good and how to live our life.


106 posted on 08/15/2018 10:29:45 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: robel

As further proof of the “ruling class” globalist corporatists— who provide the tax revenues from at the very least, Big Tobacco— being behind yet another means to control the populace with addiction (justified by the oh so desperately needed “gubmint” “services” paid for by the taxes for their vile products):

Here is another thread discussion from a post article from Ganja land. Jamaica. Phillip Morris expanding market share with filter tipped ganja cigarettes. And their buddies (have on excellent authority) at RJ Reynolds are working up the same model and backing this “movement” with their lobbyist moneys (see: John hiccup Boehner).
The silly little (who think they are big) small growers who think they’ll make a mint— soon to be contract owned by Big Tobacco. And ruled by socialist/nihilist g-dmnd demonrats. Enjoy—

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3677641/posts


107 posted on 08/15/2018 10:30:44 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: fwdude

You have no clue. Zip.


108 posted on 08/15/2018 10:31:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: fwdude

I don’t have time to go through the entire thread. I do not have time to go into all of the details right now, but legalizing pot in Washington State has been a worse nightmare than even I could have imagined.


109 posted on 08/15/2018 10:32:37 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: dware

I concur. I think more harm is caused by alcohol and prescription drugs than any other cause.


110 posted on 08/15/2018 10:32:48 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: John S Mosby

No, I was a former drug user certainly, but I specifically mean that I am a former drug addict.

I used many drugs, but I was only addicted to one, Xanax.

I quit that drug on my own too, no one helped me, other than Jesus.

First quit was cold turkey, and it was Hell. Almost died from that. The second two quits were a slow ween administered by myself.

Yes, it took me three times total to quit for good, because I am stupid like that, but such is the nature of addiction.

If you work with drug addicts, then you know first hand that the only one who can defeat the demon is the addict himself, because they are one and the same.

You can try to help them all you want, but until they decide they want to be free and are willing to suffer the pain it will take to be free, they will not be free.

Also, judgmental is fine. I have made many mistakes, and I will speak of them truthfully, because to not be truthful is to deny the lessons I learned and the paths that I walked, and I won’t do that. One of the reasons God put me in the world in this body was to battle the demon that also lives in here with me. It is my darkside, and he is currently imprisoned in the cage I previously built for me.


111 posted on 08/15/2018 10:32:49 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Sparticus
You can’t argue with dope smoking dopes

There's a reason they don't call it "smart".

112 posted on 08/15/2018 10:34:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: fireman15

Lived in WA state since it was legalized and just moved to Florida. Did not notice any harm in WA except occasional drivers driving 10-20 MPH slower than speed limits.


113 posted on 08/15/2018 10:34:53 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: fwdude
Pot itself really doesn't factor into the equation. It's your reaction to pot that colorizes "defending" it, in your mind, as "conservative" or "liberal" position.

For issues like this - the prohibition of a substance for personal use or commercial sale, for instance - there should be a high threshold that gates Federal involvement. That high threshold for federal involvement should be the conservative position, as conservatives generally ally with individualism over collectivism, and personal freedom over coercive state control.

Although state governments have more latitude in police powers than does the Federal government, the same general principals apply. Conservatives tend toward individualism and personal responsibility to govern behavior; progressives tend toward statism and coercive force to govern behavior.

I've been a pretty habitual pot smoker since 1996 or so. Feel free to ask any questions you want about long-term marijuana use.

114 posted on 08/15/2018 10:35:25 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: chris37

You have your own definition of “addiction” which is useful to you... but is incorrect. Addiction withdrawal does not have to result in death to carry the label “addictive”. Though one could stretch that definition to a NY to LA direct flight— in which the nicotine addicts became rather combative as their dose wore down. By way of explanation. The clinical definition is quite different than yours. But, if it gives you comfort and allows you to survive.... fine.


115 posted on 08/15/2018 10:36:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: fwdude
defending pot is NOT a conservative position.

That is your opinion, and that's all it is.

Being for or against the legalization of marijuana isn't inherently a question of political orientation. It rightfully belongs in the area of personal choice.

I'd caution conservatives against choosing this hill to die on. The battle to preserve prohibition has already been lost. Full legalization is coming, because the people no longer support it.

116 posted on 08/15/2018 10:36:56 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jim Noble

What should we call alcoholics, who are the major portion of my lawyer daughter’s clients to defend them in court?


117 posted on 08/15/2018 10:36:57 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: z3n

It’s a troubling drug to be sure.

I want to show my brother this video, but he has not watched it yet. His alcoholism is not as severe as the man in the video, but he has told me that he’s had DT’s before, so it’s pretty bad.

I don’t know why I never became an alcoholic, because my dad was just a total lush, but he was also an illegal drug user too.

My mom, on the other hand, has an averse reaction to alcohol, which I think I got from her, because if I drink too much, which is about 3-4 drinks, I get sick and puke, and I do not like that, so I specifically avoid going too far.

As far as an alcohol buzz goes, I like just the initial onset of it right as it hits, which is about two beers for me, then that’s it, no further.


118 posted on 08/15/2018 10:37:31 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Reno89519
I am 100% behind enforcing the federal prohibition on pot

Why do you think Congress in 1917 realized that they had no authority to prohibit alcohol, and that therefore the Constitution had to be amended to grant them that power, but in 1971 they somehow discerned that they had the authority to prohibit this plant?

I am anti-legalization. I think it's a terrible mistake and that people will suffer needlessly because of it.

I just don't think Congress has any authority over the states on this issue.

119 posted on 08/15/2018 10:38:35 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: chris37

No, FRiend you only need to think you know. If you want a clinical debate... you’d lose. Said debates are available in peer reviewed clinical journals— thousands of them. At the NIH and the CDC.

. Clinical definitions are not semantic.


120 posted on 08/15/2018 10:38:53 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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