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Why Your State Should NOT Legalize Weed
Barbwire ^ | August 15, 2018 | Larry Tomczak

Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

Generally speaking , MJ smoking causes young people to become more than inclined to go along with a Liberal progressive pattern of voting .It breeds Democraps . I will guarantee you that virtually every single Bernie Sanders wingnut smokes pot . From the youngest to the oldest . I will bet that the great majority of Anti-Fa types all smoke MJ . It probably loosens them up to then go out and run amok committing acts of anarchy and mayhem . Every single one ....


181 posted on 08/15/2018 12:36:48 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I don’t think that is exactly what the case is.

I think the smoking of MJ makes one more inclined to go along with whatever ideas are being presented at the time.

I used to get high and listen to Rush Limbaugh, and guess what, he convinced me.

Unfortunately, almost all signals in this world are broadcasting leftism, so the chances of someone getting high actually hearing someone like Limbaugh are pretty darned slim, thus the disparity exists.

The problem is that we conservatives do not really actively seek out to convince as many people as possible to agree with us.

The Left, on the other hand, is rather cultish about it.


182 posted on 08/15/2018 12:45:17 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: fwdude
Do you really want to be on the same side with the most radical of the left?

I am rarely, if ever, persuaded by pejorative sophistry.

183 posted on 08/15/2018 12:45:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: fwdude

This topic always brings out the jack-booted authoritarian types. Do you really want your foot on the necks of people who just want to mind their own GD business?


184 posted on 08/15/2018 12:50:17 PM PDT by Augie
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To: chris37
Physical addiction to a substance is totally different.

Whether you are physically addicted, or mentally addicted, isn't the end result the same - Continued use?

185 posted on 08/15/2018 12:54:10 PM PDT by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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To: TigersEye
I am rarely, if ever, persuaded by pejorative sophistry.

My statement was absolutely true. Prove what I said was false.

186 posted on 08/15/2018 12:54:59 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: chris37

There is a chapter to the Agnostic in the big book *the AA book*.

I know a devout atheist who is in AA. His higher power is nature (God as you understand him), so it does work for him.

Apparently there are NA’s in the local AA, since there are no NA groups in the immediate area. They are welcomed in to the group even though focus is on alcohol. And alcohol is considered a gateway in some circles.


187 posted on 08/15/2018 12:55:16 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: TigersEye
Smiley face

Your side.

188 posted on 08/15/2018 12:58:40 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

That’s not worth even considering. Sophistry is the garbage “argument” of a liberal.


189 posted on 08/15/2018 12:59:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: fwdude

More sophistic propaganda. LOL


190 posted on 08/15/2018 12:59:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Vermont Lt
...possession of pot for personal use...

According to whom? How does one prove possession just for personal use?

191 posted on 08/15/2018 1:14:45 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Even Hickenlooper in CO expressed dismay and some level of regret in signing the rec pot use bill into law. A democrat.
192 posted on 08/15/2018 1:16:48 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude
This reads like the guy has watched "Reefer Madness" too many times. There is a huge difference between someone who smokes an occasional joint and someone who is doing hard drugs. You cannot overdose on marijuana.

I do not smoke it but do use cannibis topicals for pain. They are non-psychoactive meaning there is no high in using them.

My state, Colorado, has legal weed and our deaths from opioid overdoses are lower than other states b/c of marijuana. When I go into my dispensary (medical), I am amazed by the number of elderly people who have their medical license and use cannibis products for pain. If I had a loved one with cancer who was in severe pain, I would totally endorse giving him or her marijuana instead of opioids. If you want to talk about addiction, let's discuss prescription pain killers.

193 posted on 08/15/2018 1:22:36 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski
This reads like the guy has watched "Reefer Madness" too many times.

The author, Larry Tomczak, is a down-in-the-streets evangelist. He knows of what he speaks by personal experience, not by any Hollyweird concoction. He's not an ivory tower Christian by any means. He goes to the most raunchy "gay pride" parades to witness. He's no dummy or coward.

I'd feel confident deferring to his opinion on observations over his long life dealing with these pot-affected people.

194 posted on 08/15/2018 1:28:00 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: Go Gordon

Mmm, I’d say yes and no.

The result of a physical addiction is that quitting is far more difficult in terms of suffering and presents you with the risk of death in some cases.

The result of “mental addiction” is nothing, you just like to do something, so you continue to choose to do that thing.

Continued use in either case is simply a choice.

The person who is physically addicted has a far harder choice to make, but it is still a choice.

I look at it like this.

if at any time in your life you choose to get high, and you wander into Hell (because addiction is Hell), it is up to you to turn around and walk back out, and if you don’t, you will certainly remain in Hell.

And you had best make that walk sober, lest you become lost again, and let me tell you, walking out of Hell sober hurts. A lot. Hell is a bad place.

I personally think that it does not benefit people who are not addicted to tell them that they are addicted.

Many people who use drugs are simply making bad decisions, and making them believe it’s hard to quit because they are addicted, when they are not addicted, seems silly.

The marijuana smoker may well wish real hard he still had some MJ to smoke, but is it gonna kill him to not smoke? Is it going to cause seizure, trembling headache, feinting, 3 months of no sleep, forgetting how to speak and write? Nah.


195 posted on 08/15/2018 1:33:37 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: mowowie

“It is NOT addictive beyond the few days that you are bummed out that you ran out.”

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive


196 posted on 08/15/2018 1:37:23 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: fwdude

Should we be concerned about something that is celebrated as a “harmless recreational” indulgence that progressive people should embrace excitedly?


Well, duh.

There: Hope I ‘triggered’ some 420s here.

I’m not debating potheads (a word - debating - which is an oxymoron in conjunction with any 420s).


197 posted on 08/15/2018 2:06:58 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: fwdude

Well, in America we do not have to prove intent to do anything else.

I am amused how all of the rights in the Constitution get tossed out the window when you don’t agree with a position. You are aware that amounts for “distribution” are spelled out clearly in the law. Or should we just jail all the potheads?


198 posted on 08/15/2018 2:10:09 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: chris37
"God, give me the strength to get away from this sh!t." -- Gregg Allman
199 posted on 08/15/2018 2:11:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: fwdude

” Finally, a recent study from Northwestern University established clearly that teen “potheads” had brain abnormalities related to poor short-term memory performance. Healthy individuals who did not use marijuana scored 37 times better on average than users—not just addicts—who had smoked pot in the past. “

What does “... 37 times better...” mean?
What is 37 times better?


200 posted on 08/15/2018 2:25:50 PM PDT by Reynoldo
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