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Can America Ever Come Together Again?
Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2018 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/17/2018 8:48:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

If ex-CIA Director John Brennan did to Andrew Jackson what he did to Donald Trump, he would have lost a lot more than his security clearance.

He would have been challenged to a duel and shot.

"Trump's ... performance in Helsinki," Brennan had said, "exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors.' It was ... treasonous."

Why should the president not strip from a CIA director who calls him a traitor the honor and privilege of a security clearance? Or is a top-secret clearance an entitlement like Social Security?

CIA directors retain clearances because they are seen as national assets, individuals whose unique experience, knowledge and judgment may be called upon to assist a president in a national crisis.

Not so long ago, this was a bipartisan tradition.

Who trashed this tradition?

Was it not the former heads of the security agencies -- CIA, FBI, director of national intelligence -- who have been leveling the kind of savage attacks on the chief of state one might expect from antifa?

Are ex-security officials entitled to retain the high privileges of the offices they held, if they descend into cable-TV hatred and hostility?

Former CIA chief Mike Hayden, in attacking Trump for separating families of detained illegal immigrants at the border, tweeted a photo of the train tracks leading into Auschwitz.

"Other governments have separated mothers and children" was Hayden's caption. CARTOONS | Robert Ariail View Cartoon

Is that fair criticism from an ex-CIA director?

Thursday, The New York Times decried Trump's accusation that the media are "the enemy of the people."

"Insisting that truths you don't like are 'fake news' is dangerous to the lifeblood of democracy. And calling journalists 'the enemy of the people' is dangerous, period," said the Times.

Fair enough, but is it not dangerous for a free press to be using First Amendment rights to endlessly bash a president as a racist, fascist, sexist, neo-Nazi, liar, tyrant and traitor?

The message of journalists who use such terms may be to convey their detestation of Trump. But what is the message received in the sick minds of people like that leftist who tried to massacre Republican congressmen practicing for their annual softball game with Democrats?

And does Trump not have a point when he says the Boston Globe-organized national attack on him, joined in by the Times and 300 other newspapers, was journalistic "collusion" against him?

If Trump believes that CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times and The Washington Post are mortal enemies who want to see him ousted or impeached, is he wrong?

We are an irreconcilable us-against-them nation today, and given the rancor across the ideological, social and cultural chasm that divides us, it is hard to see how, even post-Trump, we can ever come together again.

Speaking at a New York LGBT gala in 2016, Hillary Clinton said: "You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables ... racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic ... Some of those folks ... are irredeemable, but ... they are not America."

When Clinton's reflections on Middle America made it into print, she amended her remarks. Just as Gov. Andrew Cuomo rushed to amend his comments yesterday when he blurted at a bill-signing ceremony:

"We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great." America was "never that great"?

Cuomo's press secretary hastened to explain, "When the president speaks about making America great again ... he ignores the pain so many endured and that we suffered from slavery, discrimination, segregation, sexism and marginalized women's contributions."

Clinton and Cuomo committed gaffes of the kind Michael Kinsley described as the blurting out of truths the speaker believes but desperately does not want a wider audience to know.

In San Francisco in 2008, Barack Obama committed such a gaffe.

Asked why blue-collar workers in industrial towns decimated by job losses were not responding to his message, Obama trashed these folks as the unhappy losers of our emerging brave new world:

"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

These clingers to their Bibles, bigotries and guns are the people the mainstream media, 10 years later, deride and dismiss as "Trump's base."

What Clinton, Cuomo and Obama spilled out reveals what is really behind the cultural and ideological wars of America today.

Most media elites accept the historic indictment -- that before the Progressives came, this country was mired in racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia, and that its history had been a long catalog of crimes against indigenous peoples, Africans brought here in bondage, Mexicans whose lands we stole, migrants, and women and gays who were denied equality.

The people who cheer Trump believe the country they inherited from their fathers was a great, good and glorious country, and that the media who detest Trump also despise them.

For such as these, Trump cannot scourge the media often enough.


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To: meadsjn

The people who so vociferously spew hatred for Trump, really are spewing their hatred for the USA and for the human citizens of the USA.

They hate us. For no good reason. They just hate humans and human civilization. We can’t change their minds about that. We had better just recognize it, and never forget it.

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You are correct.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Left would round us up and haul us off to some kind of camps if they could do so.

We’re already in a cold Civil War and it’s going to get worse.


61 posted on 08/17/2018 9:45:31 AM PDT by laplata (Leftists/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: central_va
Secession? Nope. If the Lefties don't like this country, they can leave. There are plenty of socialist hellholes to move to. We should not be splitting up the country on the behalf of people that hate this country. This is not THEIR country since they don't follow its laws or believe in individual freedom.
62 posted on 08/17/2018 9:48:18 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The U.S. Senate - where American freedom goes to die.)
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To: laplata
The people who so vociferously spew hatred for Trump, really are spewing their hatred for the USA and for the human citizens of the USA. They hate us. For no good reason. They just hate humans and human civilization. We can’t change their minds about that. We had better just recognize it, and never forget it. ><

You are correct. There is no doubt in my mind that the Left would round us up and haul us off to some kind of camps if they could do so. We’re already in a cold Civil War and it’s going to get worse.

Needs to be repeated !

63 posted on 08/17/2018 9:48:54 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Kaslin

Not without a massive blood-shed event. One side has to destroy the other so that the losing side is powerless. That will require blood. Without that all that will result is creeping communist tyranny, which will eventually destroy the side we call Patriots, as you has happened now in the UK and France.


64 posted on 08/17/2018 9:54:06 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: timestax

It’s a reality and our side had better come to grips with it. The average Lib might make some objections but would do nothing to oppose it.

People like Antifa would help in the round-up.

Snowflakes would smirk at us.

People like Brennan, Waters, Holder, Jarrett would be the enforcers and oversee the camps.


65 posted on 08/17/2018 9:56:23 AM PDT by laplata (Leftists/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Yo-Yo

All your examples are correct. But they are just examples of normal bare-knuckles infighting. Liberals were nasty to Nixon. But they never called him a Nazi. And liberals made fun of Ford. But they never called him a racist.

We are seeing a demonization of conservatives today that is unprecedented.

Back in the 1970s (I’m probably older than you!) I went to hear G. Gordon Liddy speak at a local public university. No one tried to shout him down. And no one was protesting outside.

No way would someone like Liddy be able to speak there today.


66 posted on 08/17/2018 9:56:28 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

You are correct.

That’s why we must keep our powder dry.


67 posted on 08/17/2018 9:57:57 AM PDT by laplata (Leftists/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Kaslin

No. I Hate Leftist to the Core.


68 posted on 08/17/2018 10:00:49 AM PDT by heights
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To: Kaslin

Bttt.

5.56mm


69 posted on 08/17/2018 10:02:38 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin

Brennan is motivated by his own exposure in the role he played in the attempted coup against Trump. His only hope is to bring down Trump before he is more publicly exposed for being the traitor he is. This attempted coup is unprecedented in American history and must be exposed in it’s entirety with the perpetrators prosecuted. Failure to do so opens the door to repeat performances in future campaigns and the very real possibility of violence in each election cycle. Liberals long ago adopted the philosophy of the ends justify the means because they are so self righteous in their world view.


70 posted on 08/17/2018 10:13:03 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: Kaslin
If Trump believes that CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times and The Washington Post are mortal enemies who want to see him ousted or impeached, is he wrong?

I don't want to 'come together' with smug thugs ... I want them to go away, move to Canada or where ever...

71 posted on 08/17/2018 10:22:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Media's the 'smup thugs' arm of the Democrat Party....)
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To: laplata

The media hates us because democrat ‘war rooms’ send out fake letters to media people (pretending they are us) to make us look like monsters. Have you looked at a list of fake hate crimes - lies - that targeted traditional Americans?

Then many of those lies are exposed - the lesbians carved their own hate messages into their own skin, the black ‘victim’ WAS the person who burned down the black church - not US, the KKK message was written by a leftwing college student - NOT by conservatives etc etc etc... I suspect the most recent victim was a newswoman on MSNBC... a vile rape threat was sent to her ... and that vile threat reeks of democrat ‘war room’ writings... She needs to go to the FBI and find the jerk... Her name was Katy or something like tat...

Jews in pre-WWII were trashed with the same types of set-ups to make them look bad... It’s a common totalitarian tactic.


72 posted on 08/17/2018 10:34:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Media's the 'smup thugs' arm of the Democrat Party....)
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To: Kaslin

So, just as soon as the socialist left moves to Venezuela and Africa.


73 posted on 08/17/2018 10:38:13 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: timestax
There is no doubt in my mind that the Left would round us up and haul us off to some kind of camps if they could do so. We’re already in a cold Civil War and it’s going to get worse.

AND the press would believe the потёмкинские деревни... the potemkin village lies... Yes, if traditional Americans were rounded up by the left millions would die - and the 'press' would be complicit as they usually are... "Walter Duranty" the norm.

74 posted on 08/17/2018 10:39:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (Media's the 'smup thugs' arm of the Democrat Party....)
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To: a fool in paradise
actions of the Weather Underground in the 70s and 80s.

Pretty sure that was during the 60s and 70s.

75 posted on 08/17/2018 10:47:43 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: GOPJ

You’re right. They’re stupidly think we don’t know what they’re doing.


76 posted on 08/17/2018 11:01:14 AM PDT by laplata (Leftists/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Ever remember America on 9-12? Wait til the next big Terrorist attack—a big one.
like, If Iran blows up Boston with a nuke using one of there terrorist groups, or of the Chi-coms sink a US carrier in the south china sea—If Americans watch a US Carrier like the USS George Bush roll over and take 2,000 sailors to Davy Jones locker on videotape. That would do it—America would come together then.


77 posted on 08/17/2018 11:22:38 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Kaslin
Not just no, HELL, NO!
78 posted on 08/17/2018 11:23:14 AM PDT by Viking2002 ("For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." Hosea 7:8)
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To: Windflier

Nope. Weather Underground’s first event was the Days of Rage in 1969 while the Chicago 7 were on trial for their activities at the 1968 DNC convention.

Ayers bombed the Pentagon in 1972 and there were Weatherman and Black Panthers robbing banks together in the 80s to fund their activities.

Saying WU were a 60s thing was Obama’s lie.


79 posted on 08/17/2018 11:26:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise
there were Weatherman and Black Panthers robbing banks together in the 80s to fund their activities.

Sure, but by that time, both groups had devolved and shrunk to the level of common criminals. By the mid seventies, they'd both failed in their revolutionary missions. By the eighties, they were a broken shell of their former selves.

I was a young adult at the time, and well remember the events of those days. Hell, the Panthers even tried to recruit me during my high school years.

80 posted on 08/17/2018 11:50:59 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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