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Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence
new york Slimes ^ | 10/21/18 | Erica L. Green

Posted on 10/21/2018 8:51:37 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

“Sex means a person’s status as male or female based on immutable biological traits identifiable by or before birth,” the department proposed in the memo, which was drafted and has been circulating since last spring. “The sex listed on a person’s birth certificate, as originally issued, shall constitute definitive proof of a person’s sex unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The left = science deniers.


21 posted on 10/21/2018 9:05:41 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1; Artemis Webb; humblegunner
> What are you..humor nazi? Sit down and close your mouth.

Best of luck with that, n00b. (Relative to Artemis Webb, that is.)

For all you know, AW might actually -be- the Humor Nazi. After all, we have an official Blogger Overlord (humblegunner).

22 posted on 10/21/2018 9:05:58 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Artemis Webb

Do you mean like your stale tag line? Keep up the good work. You truly have a gift of introducing topics noone cares about.


23 posted on 10/21/2018 9:08:20 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Question...where in the Constitution is the Federal Govt given the power to do this. Seriously, I want to be able to reference the info in my discussions.


24 posted on 10/21/2018 9:13:21 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: butlerweave

Oh what a Drag ,LOL
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That was a queer thing to say. ;)


25 posted on 10/21/2018 9:14:24 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Out of existence ... “For Now”


26 posted on 10/21/2018 9:14:46 AM PDT by SMGFan ( .)
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To: dayglored

If you take into my name prior to Deathbeforedishonor, Artemis is the Noob.


27 posted on 10/21/2018 9:15:53 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

You mean they want to use “science” to define sexuality?


28 posted on 10/21/2018 9:16:03 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

This only works if there are two categories:

1. Legal definition of gender determined by biology in order to not shut down all women’s sports, or confound all scientific research. You can’t start a study using the scientific method with actual lies.

2. The social construct of “transgender,” or a new word for it, meaning that it stays socially acceptable for people with gender dysphoria to live lives of contentment, dressing and acting how they feel. No, they can’t compete as a woman if they are XY. But they can live how they wish and dress and act how they wish, and the rest of us should accept them with love.

Gender dysphoria is such a difficult condition that many with it wish to die and too many commit suicide. It is not their fault they are like this. We need more compassion, but we need to stick to defining gender properly by way of fact and science.


29 posted on 10/21/2018 9:16:45 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Waiting for an Obama-appointed federal judge to issue a nationwide injunction blocking this in 3 … 2 … 1 …


30 posted on 10/21/2018 9:22:40 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1; All
since when is sex the same as gender? To me, sex is “doing it.” Gender is a chromosomal thing. 😁
31 posted on 10/21/2018 9:22:57 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: USCG SimTech; All

Yup. Let the chromosomes do the talking.


32 posted on 10/21/2018 9:25:06 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

About time! What’s taking so long to straighten this out?!


33 posted on 10/21/2018 9:26:08 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Why not just call male and female just “T’s” or “O’s”? >for testicles or ovaries<


34 posted on 10/21/2018 9:28:30 AM PDT by babygene (hMake America Great Again)
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To: USCG SimTech
Not quite so simple. “AIS is divided into three categories that are differentiated by the degree of genital masculinization: complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) is indicated when the external genitalia are that of a normal female“ (Wikipedia)

In other words, outwardly the person is a totally normal female, often beautiful, but sterile, with XY DNA. Androgens from XY DNA cause the fetus to develop as a boy, but the insensitivity syndrome renders them ineffective. Hence the fetus develops as a girl. To classify such a person as male would be ludicrous.

35 posted on 10/21/2018 9:28:53 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Artemis Webb

New York Slimes
Washington Compost
SeeBS

...it would be funny if it had not been done 10000 times. Hint, it’s only clever ONCE.
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Sorry, but the TRUTH never gets old...and pointing out sources of FALSEHOODS also never gets old —- even if repeated 10,000 times.


36 posted on 10/21/2018 9:30:42 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
> If you take into my name prior to Deathbeforedishonor, Artemis is the Noob.

Ah well, I have no interest in arguing. I just noted the following, regarding your (assumed) DBD themed handles (since you don't mention any prior to that:

Artemis Webb Since Feb 20, 1998

Death before dishonor Since Nov 21, 2002

dayglored Since Jun 11, 2005

DeathBeforeDishonor1 Since Jan 25, 2010

If you wish to explain yourself further, you're welcome to put something on your Profile page, currently blank:
"DeathBeforeDishonor1 hasn't created an about page."
"Death before dishonor hasn't created an about page."

I wish you a fine rest of the day.

37 posted on 10/21/2018 9:31:30 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Reno89519

Because this is the Legacy of Obama. If they get back in power ever they will reverse it again first thing.


38 posted on 10/21/2018 9:38:04 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: dayglored; DeathBeforeDishonor1; Artemis Webb; humblegunner
For all you know, AW might actually -be- the Humor Nazi. After all, we have an official Blogger Overlord (humblegunner).

At the risk of getting in the middle of something unpleasant. Someone is going to have to explain to me what the conflict on this thread is about. It is a valid topic for discussion. I personally never tire of lefty news organizations being referred to as “New York Slimes, Washington Compost, SeeBS” etc... Attacking someone over this, criticizing their pseudonym, the amount of time they have been here, trying to get them in trouble with the mods over basically nothing appears very petty to me.

39 posted on 10/21/2018 9:38:35 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

It is. Self appointed busybodies are really annoying. They are the equivalant of FRs self appointed , self righteous “Do Gooders” and usually speak for noone.


40 posted on 10/21/2018 9:45:51 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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