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To: carriage_hill

Nevertheless, the Founders would likely be appalled at our insouciant handing-over of our personal security to government agents, as well as the mindset that says “here are the actions that you, as an armed citizen must take in order for law-enforcement not to kill you.”

Leaving exceptions for which direction the weapon my “accidentally” be pointed (for the police only) is a glaring capitulation to the state.

Would you support armed citizens opening fire on law-enforcement officers who inadvertently or otherwise, point a weapon in their direction?... Of course you wouldn’t, and neither do I.

But it bears keeping in mind that a police officer is just another citizen, (except that he or she is in the employ of the state.) No more moral, or righteous, or valuable to their families and those who love them than you or I.

I may be out of the mainstream, but I abhor the very idea of contracting out my, or my family’s security to the state or it’s agents; especially if the cost of that contract is to place those state agents above and beyond the rest of the citizenry; and to imbue them with the power to take a man’s life based on poor or incomplete information, and then be held blameless for that action.


29 posted on 11/12/2018 12:54:22 PM PST by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Hugh the Scot

No argument with most of that.

But today’s reality is what it is, and we do what we have to do to try not to get killed.

With BLM/intifa etc etc etc ambushing and killing so many cops, I can’t blame them, to a degree. But I’ve seem some videos of cops’ blatant murder of citizens. I’ve also had some LEO friends and first-time LEO meets, who I tell I’m carrying concealed, and they have no problem with it.


32 posted on 11/12/2018 1:08:04 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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