Posted on 11/26/2018 3:25:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
Nothing to see ... ignore the Super Solar Minimum which will lower the Earth’s surface temperature by 4.5 watts, ignore that the Earth and Sun will be further apart for the next 400 years ... after all, ice is just another aspect of man-caused warming, right?
L8r
“...lower the Earths surface temperature by 4.5 watts...”
A watt is not a unit of temperature.
Sorry I presumed ...
“The Sun releases an estimated 384.6 yotta watts (3.846×1026 watts) of energy in the form of light and other forms of radiation. We are able to survive on Earth because the energy is spread over the area of a sphere with a radius of approximately 93,000,000 miles.
“At the upper reaches of our atmosphere, the energy density of solar radiation is approximately 1,368 W/m2 (watts per square meter). At the Earth’s surface, the energy density is reduced to approximately 1,000 W/m2 for a surface perpendicular to the Sun’s rays at sea level on a clear day”
Amount of watts reaching the Earth’s surface and the Earth’s tilt and distance from the Sun determine the temperature; Earth’s gases have a magnifying or minimizing effect on the overall temperature (depending on the mix and percentages). The Sun also tilts and wobbles.
The surface wattage will be reduced by 4.5 to 6 watts while the Earth moves about 2 million miles (95-96,000,000) further from the Sun due to wobble and eccentricity of orbits. These two effects will make the Earth much cooler, perhaps approaching the Younger Dryas Period (the coldest recent period which followed the Ice Age. This situation will persist for about 350-400 years ...
Adding carbon to the atmosphere is useless and could cause more harm ... so a useless remedy.
The confusion was that you did not include the the unit surface area in your statement.
I presumed you all had read the post on FR about the Super Grand Solar minimum. Watts are an elementary unit of solar output sorry ...
The odd thing is that the corporate/govt forces arrayed in this fight seem to be preponderantly on the Warmist side.
And the Warmists accuse US of being in Daddy Warbuck’s pocket.
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4.5 watts isn’t very much.
Exactly. To say that the temperature of something decreases by a certain number of watts is as meaningless as saying that it decreases by a certain number of centimeters.
Some of us are scientists.
Some of us know a little science and love to learn more.
Some know little of science but want to understand the issues better.
Some of us say “it is settled science”. Those are the fake scientists, as any scientist or science knowledgeable knows that science is never settled - continually challenging science is science.
That’s a negative 4.5. And you are forgetting that the Sun and the Earth are going to be about 2 million miles further apart so a -4.5 becomes more important ... Lots of people have done the math - no one has gotten a different answer. Average Earth temp (as best we can tell) was 1.1 degrees cooler during the Little Ice Age ... this period will be colder by a lot. The wattage effects the temperature - its the Sun! The lower the wattage, the lower the temperature. The further from the Sun, the cooler the Temperature - its the Sun!
To say that the temperature of something decreases by a certain number of watts is as meaningless
I know the math. 4.5 watts is not allot of power unless it is attached to unit area and unit time.
Fake science ping
have no idea what you are referring to unless it is just a general statement about science ... consensus thinking (aka settled science) is prevalent not only in the sciences, but wherever you hear the phrase ‘Everybody knows ...’
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