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California Democrats rewrite the voting rules in their favor
Orange County Register ^ | December 1, 2018 | By SHAWN STEEL

Posted on 12/04/2018 12:50:57 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson
I posted this on a thread the other night, I hope you don't mind if I post it again here. By the way, I am not being apocalyptic about this as much as trying to shine a light on the process of ballot harvesting, which I think is unknown to the vast majority of citizens. When I heard this term, I had absolutely no idea what "ballot harvesting" was. I only heard this term recently for the first time. As I learned more, I became progressively more shocked, appalled, and disgusted by what I found.

IMPORTANT DISTINCTION: PROVISIONAL BALLOTS DO NOT NEED A "POSTMARK" AND ARE HANDLED OUTSIDE THE MAIL SERVICE. PROVISIONAL BALLOTS ARE NOT ABSENTEE BALLOTS.

This piece at The Daily Caller: WHAT IS ‘BALLOT HARVESTING,’ AND HOW DID CALIFORNIA DEMS USE IT TO NUKE THE GOP? completely blew me away.

Just blew me away.

Here is the link to the embedded video on YouTube that shows just how brazen and focused this is: YouTube video recording harvesting in action: "Picking up my ballot?"

This is a transcript of the dialogue in the video that I put together as best I could.

BRANDY: Who is it?

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Hey, I'm looking for Brandy?

BRANDY: Who is it?

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Lulu. I came here to pick up your ballot.

BRANDY: What do you mean, picking it up?

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Yeah, I bring this little service, but only to, like, people who are supporting the Democratic Party. It's a service, I'm just hear to pick up your ballot...show you how to do it, if you don't know.

BRANDY: You came here to pick up my ballot?

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Yeah (chuckles) it's new, the bill just passed last year, at the end. So there is, there's been a problem with like, people, um...like half the ballots that were mailed out last year didn't get back, a lot of people weren't signing the envelope in the back and stuff, but...(trails off)

BRANDY: Let me look...

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Okay.

BRANDY: I think I filled it out...(inaudible)

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Yeah, well I'm working with the bill that was passed and stuff, it's not like I am going to take it and fabricate it. It has to be sealed and it has to be signed for me to even touch it...ummm...

BRANDY: You came here to pick up my ballot?

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Yeah (chuckles) it's new, the bill just passed last year, at the end. So there is, there's been a problem with like, people, um...like half the ballots that were mailed out last year didn't get back, a lot of people weren't signing the envelope in the back and stuff, but...(trails off)

BRANDY: How will I even know that (inaudible)

DEMOCRAT WORKER LULU: Okay.

The end of the exchange is inaudible, but you hear the mailbox slot on the door, which I assume is the ballot being passed through the slot to the worker.

I could hardly believe this. I still cannot believe it. So, they get the rolls of the voters, separate out the registered Democrats, find out from the election day rolls who did and did not vote, then go out to the ones who either didn't show up at the polls, or do not have a ballot mailed in. (NOTE: I am not sure exactly how this is done, whether they have a way of knowing who sent in their ballot before the election, then go out before the election and knock on doors to obtain ones that didn't get sent in, or they begin sending people out as soon as provisional or mail in ballots are counted on election day and the identities of the voters are known, I don't know. Perhaps another Freeper knows more about this.)

What is disturbing to me is the process. I am, and have always been 100% opposed to "Motor Voter", early voting, mail in ballots, and everything along those lines, except in the case of people who cannot get to the polls on election day for valid reasons including infirmity, business, travel, military service, etc. Those are valid reasons, and should be accommodated.

Voting is the cornerstone of our representative government. If on Election Day, someone cannot get off their lazy ass and make it to the voting booth, they don't deserve to vote. Period. Many people (including nearly all Leftists and even many on Free Republic) disagree with me on this, but I don't give a damn.

When the Motor Voter Law went through under the Clinton administration, it is no accident that that two of the damned grinning and proud Leftists on hand for the ceremony were Richard Cloward and Francis Fox-Piven. This is EXACTLY what people like that want, and I still find it dumbfounding that so many people, including many on this very forum, agree with those two Leftist radicals.

They want EVERY single chink in the armor of the security of the electoral process to be expanded, widened, and exploited in any way possible, and ALL these things, Motor Voter, early voting, absentee ballots, not to mention requiring proof of mandatory citizenship, resistance and opposition to purging voter rolls and requiring valid identification to vote, are all part of that strategy.

I was shocked and astonished to see this practice. We should, every one of us be appalled and disgusted by this. I was equally disturbed by the response of my wife (who is no Leftist) when I described this to her, and she said "Well, it's fine if both sides have the opportunity to do it, right?"

No, it is NOT "fine". My wife is no liberal, but she misses the point entirely. This whole process can and does take place after the polls are closed...most are a week to ten days, but in some cases, up to TWENTY ONE DAYS AFTER THE POLLS CLOSE!

Check out this page for information about state laws on this: National Conference of State Legislatures: About Provisional Ballots to see more information on how states handle them.

This is the deliberate destruction of the voting process, deliberate. To say that "we should do it too" is to miss the point entirely. We call this voter fraud, Leftists call it "Democracy". Folks, this kind of thing is going to spread to other states, make no mistake about it, and when it does, we are finished as a Republic. Finished.

61 posted on 12/05/2018 7:43:02 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"This doesn't seem like the republican form of government guaranteed by the constitution to me. "

If you go back to the original constitution they would be appointed elected by the legislature.

62 posted on 12/05/2018 2:43:49 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Wait for the place to collapse, then sift through the remains and see if there’s anything left of value.


63 posted on 12/05/2018 9:27:38 PM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: centurion316

How expensive was it for California to send a BALLOT to EVERY registered voter?


64 posted on 12/06/2018 7:25:14 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Apparently worth it for the Democrats. Expect that in 2020, every registered voter in California will vote, many of them will be illegal immigrants and not U.S. citizens.


65 posted on 12/06/2018 8:28:29 AM PST by centurion316
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“I think a higher federal court outside of California should review this.”

Something definitely needs to be done

The government of CA is a travesty and is doing so many unconstitutional things and it needs to be stopped!


66 posted on 12/06/2018 11:46:38 AM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: rlmorel

Very good reply, thanks for posting it

The criminal activity is rampant in CA

San Francisco allowing non citizens to vote in local elections is outrageous.


67 posted on 12/06/2018 11:52:06 AM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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Courts generally stay out of election battles except when Democrats want to count hanging chads. So I don’t expect any of this to change.

I have sadly reached the conclusion that my children (5th gen) will be the last generation to call California home. I am already making plans to retire in a zero income tax state and the USPS and other records show that thousands of others are doing the same. Eventually the only ones left will be old communists, young tech workers and illegals who watch the kids, clean the houses and mow the lawns.

California used to be a great place to live but the minus factors have now become unbearable.


68 posted on 12/06/2018 12:19:20 PM PST by KingofZion
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To: Syncro

You are welcome, thanks for reading it (I readily admit I get a bit wordy on FR)

I think that, if we knew the truth about who is voting in the illegal community from a numbers perspective, we would be shocked and appalled.


69 posted on 12/06/2018 1:39:57 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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There is a way that the FEDS can stop this.

Research bump.


70 posted on 12/06/2018 4:56:42 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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Nice deconstruction.

Ballot harvesting opens the door to rampant fraud. Democrat vote harvesters can sign up people
to vote absentee, then get them to sign their ballots whether marked or not. They can now go through:
rest homes,
hospitals,
homeless shelters,
tent cities,
labor camps,
prisons, jails,
high schools, colleges, etc,

The vote harvester can assist the voter in marking the ballot.....hell, they can just do it all and get the signature.
Won't be long until California has no Republican reps at all.......a higher federal court outside of California should review this......

NOTE ballot harvesting has always been illegal and is banned in other states.

71 posted on 12/07/2018 2:37:24 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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As FReeper KNARF insightfully posted: I haven’t seen “the Democrat party” as a political arm in a long time.
All we’ve been subjected to is gauntlet after gauntlet thrown down.......

Democrats are an aggressive army challenging a peaceful nation....a nation they despise.

Democrats abandoned their role in the two-party system of checks and balances.
Democrats have morphed into an invading army......trailed by a bunch of camp followers.

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Conniving Democrats are at their worst in a race:
When Republicans lose they graciously concede and the race is over.
When predatory Democrats lose, they mobilize the heavy artillery —— the heavy duty voter-fraud tanks-—
they roll over anyone standing in their way until the seat is in their hands.

72 posted on 12/07/2018 2:39:20 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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