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DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SAYS WE'RE 'MOVING TOWARD INDICTMENT' OF TRUMP
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Posted on 01/17/2019 4:59:25 AM PST by TigerClaws

A senior Democratic senator has said Congress is almost ready to indict President Donald Trump.

Sheldon Whitehouse, the Democratic senator from Rhode Island, spoke to CNN anchor Chris Cuomo on Tuesday and stressed that while Congress was closing in on Trump, more evidence was required for an air-tight case.

Read More: Can Mueller indict Trump while he’s president? Pelosi says it’s an "open discussion"

“I do not at all subscribe to the [Office of Legal Counsel] theory that a president can’t be indicted,” Whitehouse told Cuomo. “I think that if there are crimes that he has committed he should be indicted.

“I think that the Office of Legal Counsel [OLC] and the Department of Justice bends over backward to take the most executive branch-friendly position that it possibly can,” he continued, “but I think a court taking a look at this would say, ‘No, no no, no, no.’”

The OLC says that indicting a sitting president would be unconstitutional, as it would “undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.”

But Whitehouse cited “the Nixon precedents and others,” which he said did not support the concept of a president “not being answerable to the public in this way.”

The senator warned that an unanswerable president “would create a terrible situation—you've got a president who the public knows is the subject of criminal investigation, may very well be involved in criminal activity, and you don't get a resolution of that question. You don’t get pressure on him to answer questions and get out—that doesn’t seem like an appropriate way to deal with it.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoints; fakenews; littlesheldon; newsweak; sheldonwhitehouse; whitehouse
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To: TigerClaws

Whitehorse and/or the article seem confused. On one hand, they are talking about Congress indicting, then pretending that this is related to arguments over whether Presidents can be indicted by the Justice Department. The Constitution sets forth that Presidents can only be indicted by Congress, which has to prove a case to the Senate, acting a jury. You can’t have the head of state held hostage to lower levels of law enforcement, just because fascist Democrats want to.

“I think that if there are crimes that he has committed he should be indicted.” OK Shelly from Rhode Island. List those crimes. What exactly are you charging Trump with doing? Obstructing justice by firing Comey? “Colluding” with Russia which isn’t a crime? When the “defense” exposes the entire coup d’état, will you say, “don’t get sore, we were just askin’”? Or are you proposing that the DoJ venture into another unconstitutional coup by indicting Trump themselves?


41 posted on 01/17/2019 7:02:32 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: TigerClaws
I do not doubt what he says. Getting rid of President Trump has been the number one goal of the Democrats and the Republicans since the second he was elected. And if necessary, they will manufacture a reason to impeach him. And when it gets to the Senate they will only need 66 Senators. And they already have 47? So that only leaves 19 Senators that they have to come up with. Subtract the number of overt Trump haters and Never Trumpers from the 19 that is needed and that lowers the number even further. At this point in time the required number of latent Trump haters, Never Trumpers, or opportunistic Republicans, hoping to ingrate themselves with the main stream media will step forward. What should be planned for is what happens next. in the past, each time I have depended on the Republicans, I have been disappointed.

I understand that the impeachment and removal from Office by the Senate will never happen. From reading history I learned that many, if not most Germans thought, up to the day he gained power, that Hitler would fade away. And that the Jews, when he told his plans for them , dismissed them as "political thought". History tells us in both cases what happened. And history also tells us what people said,"would never happen". Did happen. The Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared comes to mind.

42 posted on 01/17/2019 7:25:23 AM PST by sport
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To: TigerClaws

Wow. What the &%$# is wrong with Democrats? This entire scenario is insane. It’s as if they believe when they as Democrats make up facts then those facts are true instead of lies. I am beginning to wonder not only about the collusion between the Democrats and the media, but between the entire Democrat party and the rest of the anti-American world. I don’t know if there is a way they can be awoke from their mass delusion as I am sure being elected into these positions of power must greatly monetarily enrich they own personal wealth as well as inflate their egos, why else but for their own profit would they collude in their delusion against their fellow Americans by colluding against the lawfully elected President of their country?


43 posted on 01/17/2019 7:40:43 AM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Stay Calm & MAGA On!)
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To: Vaquero

It will play out like this:

1. The House majority passes the indictment
2. The indictment is thrown out due to Constitution
3. House claims Constitution is outdated
4. All Rats agree
5. Rats blow smoke for next year or so at how corrupt Trump/Administration is
6. Rats pick up more seats in next election, if not Presidency.


44 posted on 01/17/2019 8:04:22 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Vaquero

“Can’t indict a sitting president
And Senators can’t impeach…that’s for the house.

Who is this moron??”

Another democrat.


45 posted on 01/17/2019 8:14:20 AM PST by kagnew (\)
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To: TigerClaws

Meanwhile, the Clintons still walk free.


46 posted on 01/17/2019 9:21:09 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: TigerClaws

They’re playing with fire here. They may attempt to impeach Trump in the House, but the Senate probably won’t convict. Even so, Trump will probably gain even more support if he is impeached.


47 posted on 01/17/2019 10:05:07 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: kagnew

It was a rhetorical question.


48 posted on 01/17/2019 10:05:52 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: TigerClaws

Senator Whitehouse is a blowhard. In the above discussion, he cites nothing that is an indictable offense. There is nothing Trump has done that he could be indictable for. Senator Whitehouse is just blowing wind. All this talk of criminal activity is nonsense. Senator Whitehouse has displayed his ineptitude in this. He is a goofball!


49 posted on 01/17/2019 4:58:13 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: TigerClaws
Sheldon Whitehouse...stressed that while Congress was closing in on Trump, more evidence was required for an air-tight case.

IOW= "We don't have cr@p."

50 posted on 01/17/2019 5:31:29 PM PST by gogeo (The Repubs may not always deserve to win, but the RATs always deserve to lose.)
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To: marajade

Oh, don’t you remember? It’s like 7th grade, when you got punished for the same thing certain kids got away with, and when you pointed that out, you were told, “Never mind what someone else did. That’s none of your business. We’re talking about what YOU did! “


51 posted on 01/17/2019 5:40:45 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: marajade

52, if you count Mitt.


52 posted on 01/17/2019 5:42:52 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Reily

Well, no. A bill of impeachment is a bill of impeachment. An indictment is a JUDICIAL/criminal justice instrument, a bill of impeachment is a legislative instrument.


53 posted on 01/18/2019 6:39:11 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

picky picky...my point is it can be thought of as kind of an indictment. If an indictment is thought of as a statement “Hey there is enough evidence to bring this person or persons to trial (judicial, legislative or farcical versions!)!” then a bill of impeachment is similar since there is a Senate trial.


54 posted on 01/18/2019 6:59:49 AM PST by Reily
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