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Should Noncitizens Be Represented in Congress?
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 22, 2019 | David B. Rivkin Jr. and Richard Raile

Posted on 04/23/2019 5:19:19 AM PDT by reaganaut1

The Supreme Court Tuesday will hear oral arguments in the Trump administration’s appeal of lower-court orders forbidding it to ask a citizenship question in the 2020 census. The justices’ task in Department of Commerce v. New York won’t be difficult: The law and facts overwhelmingly support the administration. But the case is a proxy for future battles over redistricting and reapportionment, vital components of American democracy that determine the balance of political power within and among states.

The Census Act grants the commerce secretary discretion to conduct the census “in such form and content as he may determine.” In rejecting the citizenship question, the lower courts usurped that authority and frustrated Congress’s intent. The question about citizenship is far from unprecedented: It was asked in every census but one from 1820 to 1950. Most advanced democracies ask for citizenship information in censuses, a United Nations-recommended best practice.

The administration argues that the citizenship data would help in enforcement of the Voting Rights Act, and that is manifestly true. By law, “majority minority” districts must be drawn so at least 50% of eligible voters—i.e., citizens over 18—are members of the minority in question. If too many minority residents are ineligible to vote, that defeats the purpose of avoiding the dilution of minority voting strength. Voting-rights litigation and compliance are hampered by the lack of citizenship data in the decennial census.

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Factoring such aliens into reapportionment and redistricting does nothing for them, as it does not change immigration status. Rather, it rewards state policies designed to subvert the Immigration and Nationality Act and to achieve enhanced representation at the expense of more law-abiding states. Today’s case marks only the beginning of a larger debate over these questions.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: census; voting
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To: reaganaut1

Should non-citizens be represented in Congress?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

NON-CITIZENS ARE IN THE USA ILLEGALLY!

THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

ROUNDEM UP AND SENDEM HOME!


61 posted on 04/23/2019 6:44:07 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: dblshot

NO!

THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

ROUNDEM UP AND SENDEM HOME


62 posted on 04/23/2019 6:44:59 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: reaganaut1
If these “non-citizens” are illegal they should have their asses put back across that border!!!
63 posted on 04/23/2019 6:45:48 AM PDT by ontap
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To: reaganaut1

I’d like ME to be represented!


64 posted on 04/23/2019 6:46:20 AM PDT by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Taxman

Just wait, John Roberts will vote with the Liberals and that will be the end of it.


65 posted on 04/23/2019 6:47:36 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: DoodleDawg

“But they have a permanent legal address do they not?”

Yes, in a other state, which is where they should be counted. Illegals should be counted in their home country, not here.


66 posted on 04/23/2019 6:47:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: Travis McGee

a great and truthful meme, Travis!

LIEberals in BOTH parties are anti-American and need to be called out for their hatred of America!

Thanks!


67 posted on 04/23/2019 6:47:44 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Taxman

Not all of them.


68 posted on 04/23/2019 6:48:05 AM PDT by x
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To: reaganaut1

No.

Next!


69 posted on 04/23/2019 6:52:55 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: reaganaut1

There is no such thing as “American Citizen” anymore. All of us are just looked at as collections of people.


70 posted on 04/23/2019 6:59:08 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: reaganaut1
Next up: Voter ID.

And when that case gets to the Supremes, the wailing and gnashing of teeth will be loud, and long.

71 posted on 04/23/2019 6:59:45 AM PDT by Wizdum (The Dems are not afraid a wall won't work, the Dems are TERRIFIED a wall WILL work.)
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To: Oldexpat
"Or Somali citizens controlling a district in Minnesota?"

They already are (ilhan omar).

72 posted on 04/23/2019 7:01:11 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (Jesus drove a Honda,but didn't talk about it:"For I did not speak of my own Accord"John 12:49(KJV))
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To: The Great RJ

give greater representation in Congress to the sanctuary cities at the expense of the rest of the country. Step two give non citizens the vote and step three have direct election of the president.... result a single party government.
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The Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA)


73 posted on 04/23/2019 7:03:11 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: reaganaut1

No.


74 posted on 04/23/2019 7:08:14 AM PDT by BadLands59
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To: x

I, in the heat of the battle, spoke a bit prematurely.

ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be counted and MUST be deported!

Legal aliens (NOT temporary visa holders - i.e., those here on temporary work permits!) should be counted.

And, somehow, someway, We the People MUST ensure that ONLY LEGAL CITIZENS of the USA vote in national elections.


75 posted on 04/23/2019 7:12:46 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Colo9250

What, Roberts will foment CW II?


76 posted on 04/23/2019 7:13:38 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: DoodleDawg
The problem is that silly little quote, "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed." "Whole number of persons" not "whole number of citizens".

So the Indian H1-Bs shouldn't be counted?

77 posted on 04/23/2019 7:13:38 AM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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To: DoodleDawg
But they have a permanent legal address do they not?

For voting purposes, many have two permanent legal addresses.

78 posted on 04/23/2019 7:15:52 AM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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To: ealgeone

Don’t remind me.


79 posted on 04/23/2019 7:15:59 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: entropy12

I did not know that about citizenship.

So when my father and my mom’s parents came over from Italy, they weren’t instantly citizens?


80 posted on 04/23/2019 7:16:49 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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