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Brexit: MPs Back Boris Johnson’s Plans To Leave EU On 31 January
BBC News ^ | 12/20/2019 | N/A

Posted on 12/20/2019 7:51:02 AM PST by goldstategop

They voted 358 to 234 - a majority of 124 - in favour of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill, which now goes on to further scrutiny in Parliament. The bill would also ban an extension of the transition period - during which the UK is out of the EU but follows many of its rules - past 2020. The PM said the country was now "one step closer to getting Brexit done".

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: dhs12345
Not sure -- I think immigration was part of the impetus for the UK to leave, and the Germans have backed off their full-throated supported for unlimited immigration. So not sure if anyone else is thinking about leaving.

On the flip side, the clear swing in opinion in the UK, and Boris' huge majority, will show that leaving the EU doesn't have to create chaos. When Britian gets that trade deal with the U.S....you might see some other members having second thoughts.

21 posted on 12/20/2019 8:36:01 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MurrietaMadman
Exactly. The end result of these agreement, EU, USMCA, etc. is handing over sovereignty of the member states and their citizens to the globalists oligarchs that run the bureaucracies. Lets hope that there will still be independent thinking patriots should this new entity try to impose its regulations on Americans.

I always wondered if NAFTA was America/Canada/Mexicos response to the EU. “We can do it too.” I remember people thinking that NAFTA was a stupid idea when it was created.

USMCA is probably end up being NAFTA part II.

22 posted on 12/20/2019 8:44:26 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

That makes sense.

Probably overly simplified but — if it continues to be a benefit to a country to remain, then the country will probably remain. For Germany, it is probably a plus to remain a member since they will be able to dominate the region.


23 posted on 12/20/2019 8:53:18 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: goldstategop

The People’s will is getting done.


24 posted on 12/20/2019 8:56:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: goldstategop

I wish that they had gone back on the path for a hard brexit after the election mandate.


25 posted on 12/20/2019 8:59:41 AM PST by Revel
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To: dhs12345

The EU has already made it difficult by trying to negotiate what the exit terms look like - including the demand for continued financial support.

They’ve succeeded in exposing the nature of the EU - it’s more of a cartel, trying to centrally plan everything, than anything that resembles the “United States of Europe”.

There are fishing towns in the UK that have been decimated by EU regulations - dictating whom can fish what waters and how much. It’s not just because of immigration.

The “remainers” argument is that the UK will go into a depression if they leave, although this already hangs over the country and the economy is showing no signs of impending doom.

...I’d imagine PDJT would be eager to do a US/UK trade deal the second they’re free.


26 posted on 12/20/2019 9:00:31 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: goldstategop

eu membership was supposed to be a 1 way door. the British electors handed BoJo a remington 870 loaded with breaching rounds and he’s blowing the hinges off the door


27 posted on 12/20/2019 9:02:30 AM PST by Jeff Vader
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To: dhs12345
Lets hope that there will still be independent thinking patriots should this new entity try to impose its regulations on Americans

I think the timely action would be to flood the senate with opposing opinions before they approve it, too.

It would be a lot easier than trying to change an existing law the deep staters and law makers love, dontcha think?

28 posted on 12/20/2019 9:05:22 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: fuzzylogic

This makes a lot of sense. Once bureaucrats gain power and money, they don’t want to give it up.

At least during the formation of the US government, the fear of a centralized government was taken into account.

Maybe, just maybe, the reason why the UK is in an economic slump is because of the EU.


29 posted on 12/20/2019 9:24:53 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: MurrietaMadman

Agreed. So, which party in the Senate? Republicans or Democrats or independent? I don’t trust Republicans to do the right thing for middle class Americans and I definitely don’t trust the Democrats. Both parties have different goals but the end result is the same.


30 posted on 12/20/2019 9:38:17 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Agreed. So, which party in the Senate? Republicans or Democrats or independent?

Thank you for providing an opportunity to point out two foundational bases of our Nation.

The first is that political parties are not our government. They act like they are, they want US to believe that they are but they are not. We are. They are supposed to be our agents and do our bidding not our princes we have to serve.

Second, it matters not what party a Senator belongs to when a citizen of the state contacts the Senator of that state with a concern or question. It is the Senator's duty to respond to the citizen he was elected to serve.

So my advice is find out which Senator(s) represent your state, write him/her/them and btw, encourage your friends, family and neighbors to write him/her/them, too.

31 posted on 12/20/2019 10:10:33 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: MurrietaMadman

Thanks. I will follow your advice.


32 posted on 12/20/2019 11:24:43 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: C210N

The UK is a member only until 31 January 2020.

It keeps the privileges and responsibilities during the transition period which is up to end 2020 but can be concluded earlier.

So Brexit happens at the end of January 2020


33 posted on 12/21/2019 10:03:19 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: goldstategop

No, the deal is agreed on. Now we move to a normal trade discussion like USMCA


34 posted on 12/21/2019 10:04:47 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: PGR88

Brexit is done on 31 January

Trade duties etc are purely trade discussions like NAFTA


35 posted on 12/21/2019 10:07:30 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

The difference is that only 7% of British trade is with the USA, compared to 56% with other European countries


36 posted on 12/21/2019 10:08:39 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: dhs12345

The USA learnt money to the UK, that had to be paid back.and with the conditions of decolonisation


37 posted on 12/21/2019 10:09:37 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Hazwaste

Through one election.

2016 was a referendum.

The previous general elections in 2017 led to the previous split parliament


38 posted on 12/21/2019 10:10:45 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: MurrietaMadman

Correct, usmca is sharing some sovereignty


39 posted on 12/21/2019 10:11:54 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: dhs12345

No other country’s people or parties want to leave


40 posted on 12/21/2019 10:13:04 PM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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