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FACT CHECK: Mike Pence Moved Slowly in Combating HIV Outbreak
FactCheck.org ^ | 02/28/2020 | Rem Rieder

Posted on 02/29/2020 3:26:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, newly crowned coronavirus point man Mike Pence spun the facts in claiming he moved decisively when confronted with a disturbing HIV outbreak in a rural Indiana county when he was governor of the state.

“We worked the problem early in the year from a law enforcement standpoint, from a health standpoint,” the vice president told Hannity on Feb. 27. “I don’t believe in needle exchanges as a way to combat drug abuse, but in this case, we came to the conclusion that we had a public health emergency, and so, I took executive action to make a limited needle exchange available.”

But Pence’s fellow Hoosier Pete Buttigieg, the former South Bend mayor now seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, says there’s more to the story. “He was dragged kicking and screaming into that,” Buttigieg told CNN’s Don Lemon on Feb. 27. “Had he acted earlier, I believe that the worst parts of the HIV epidemic could have been avoided.”

Buttigieg is right. An unusually high number of HIV cases in Scott County, Indiana, was first spotted by health authorities in November 2014. Pence did not declare a public health emergency and authorize a needle exchange program for the county until March 26, 2015.

A 2018 study by Yale University researchers, published in the medical journal The Lancet HIV, concluded prompt action could have dramatically reduced the seriousness of the outbreak.

“The upper bound for undiagnosed HIV infections in Scott County peaked at 126 around Jan 10, 2015, over 2 months before the Governor of Indiana declared a public health emergency on March 26, 2015,” the study said, concluding that “an earlier public health response could have substantially reduced the total number of HIV infections (estimated to have been 183–184 infections by Aug 11, 2015).”

“It was a total collapse of public health leadership and a dereliction of duty in Indiana,” one of the study’s authors, Yale epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, told the Washington Post. “They could have avoided this epidemic if science took the lead instead of ideology.”

While it can’t really be known what would have happened if Pence and others had acted differently, the paper uses mathematical modeling to conclude better surveillance and earlier public health actions would have lessened the epidemic.

“A comprehensive response, including access to clean syringes for people who inject drugs, as well as therapies such as buprenorphine and methadone, could avoid new outbreaks of HIV and HCV in at-risk counties in the first place,” Gonsalves told Yale News in 2018.

With Pence’s new responsibilities in dealing with the coronavirus, his response to the HIV crisis in Scott County has returned to the spotlight. Pence told Hannity that he thinks one of the reasons President Donald Trump picked him to head the administration’s coronavirus response was his experience in handling the HIV episode.

The outbreak of HIV was linked to extensive use by Scott County residents of a prescription opioid painkiller called Opana, which was taken off the market in 2017. Needle-sharing was common in the area, where many members of a family often live in the same house.

Experts say that in situations like the one in Scott County needle exchange programs are essential. But Pence, a social conservative, was very much opposed to them, seeing them as contributing to drug abuse. (According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, however, syringe services programs “do not cause or increase illegal drug use.”) It took much lobbying by other officials to get Pence to give the program — which was illegal in Indiana — the green light.

On March 23, 2015, months after the outbreak began, Pence said he was going home to pray on the issue, according to the New York Times. Soon afterward he declared a public health emergency and approved the program. “It was disappointing that it took so much effort to bring the governor on board,” Ed Clere, a Republican state representative who championed the needle exchange, told the Times in 2016.

Even as he announced the new approach, Pence made clear his reluctance to adopt it. “I do not enter into this lightly,” he said. “I don’t believe effective anti-drug policy involves handing out drug paraphernalia.”

Once launched, the program was considered a success. According to the New England Journal of Medicine, 97,000 syringes were distributed to the 277 people who signed up. They were taking a median of five injections a day, according to the publication.

Despite the criticism, Pence continues to talk positively about his reaction to the HIV crisis.

“Indiana would go on to change the law to mirror what action I had taken,” he told Hannity. “It was a moment where we had brought — we had brought all of the resources to bear, first from a health perspective, a law enforcement perspective, and I’m glad to say that we got all of those people treated. Everyone was able to get support and help and we move forward and the community recovered.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; hiv; mikepence
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1 posted on 02/29/2020 3:26:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals just never stop vomiting out lies.


2 posted on 02/29/2020 3:29:10 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is Mike Pence VP? Trump does NOT need him for 2020. Trump’s got 2020 in the bag and Pence is NOT the man for 2024.

What would it take to get a constitutional amendment reversing Amendment 22 so we can keep Trump as long as we can?


3 posted on 02/29/2020 3:30:35 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

HIV is a very preventable disease. I don’t need a governor to tell me what I shouldn’t do.


4 posted on 02/29/2020 3:33:00 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: SeekAndFind

if FatChick.org sez so, it must be true


5 posted on 02/29/2020 3:33:29 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Jim W N

“...a constitutional amendment reversing Amendment 22...”
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Not gonna happen.
Wish for something realistic.


6 posted on 02/29/2020 3:34:12 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not a Pence fan, but for government time that seems reasonably responsive.


7 posted on 02/29/2020 3:35:25 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim W N

?

What am I missing? Pence had supported Trump well as VP.


8 posted on 02/29/2020 3:35:56 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: SeekAndFind

See Dr. Drew Pinsky’s comments on the Daily Blast. Rush L posted them.

Said Pence handling of HIV was praiseworthy, well done and doesn’t know what the hell these idiots are talking about— “they are making it up”-— ‘they should shut up’.


9 posted on 02/29/2020 3:36:10 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jim W N

For one thing, it would involve 38 states ratifying such an amendment. It would have to include some “blue” states. It’s very unlikely.


10 posted on 02/29/2020 3:36:35 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: Jim W N

This was not a serious question, correct?


11 posted on 02/29/2020 3:39:59 PM PST by Calif Conservative (A)
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To: SeekAndFind
FREE GAY SEX AND FREE NEEDLES!!!!!

Buttigieg campaign slogan.

12 posted on 02/29/2020 3:42:04 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (QUIT DRINKING CORONA!!! (it sucks))
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To: Jim W N
Why is Mike Pence VP? Trump does NOT need him for 2020. Trump’s got 2020 in the bag and Pence is NOT the man for 2024. What would it take to get a constitutional amendment reversing Amendment 22 so we can keep Trump as long as we can?

Dude. We're waiting for you to step-up. Did you send in your resume yet?

13 posted on 02/29/2020 3:43:30 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (QUIT DRINKING CORONA!!! (it sucks))
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To: SeekAndFind

Short of removing the sodomites from out of the general population, what was there to be done?


14 posted on 02/29/2020 3:44:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

RE: Short of removing the sodomites from out of the general population, what was there to be done?

Well, we still need to help those who contracted AIDS accidentally due to infected blood transfusion.

See the Tennis great: Arthur Ashe


15 posted on 02/29/2020 3:47:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: 9YearLurker

First you have to find out where it is spreading. Sure people are getting HIV but where is it spreading from. That takes time to find.

And this idiot is advocating for handing out drugs in the article.


16 posted on 02/29/2020 3:49:40 PM PST by jimpick
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To: o-n-money
Exactly.

Transmission is difficult.

If you don't share needles or put your male member in another male's effluent tube your chances of getting it approach 0.00%.

These drug addicts infected each other by knowingly engaging in very high risk behavior and they are blaming the VP for not stopping them?

17 posted on 02/29/2020 3:51:30 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Repeal The 17th

“...a constitutional amendment reversing Amendment 22...”
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Not gonna happen.
Wish for something realistic


All the Democrats are arrested for treason and sent to Gitmo.


18 posted on 02/29/2020 3:52:24 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: John S Mosby

FACT CHECK: Mike Pence Moved Slowly in Combating HIV Outbreak


This is a good example of the Corona Virus hoax that our president is talking about.


19 posted on 02/29/2020 3:53:47 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Eagles6

Look what free needles have done for Sh*t Francisco.


20 posted on 02/29/2020 3:54:36 PM PST by kaehurowing
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