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To: Lagmeister
Well if it were my son I'd be asking what was he doing to find himself in that situation in the first place....and if he was drugged or drunk or both, belligerent and resisting .. what in the world did he expect would happen?

Police are not always going to be fair and do things right when they're handling a criminal arrest amid a rowdy crowd. Just as teachers, attorneys, judges and all in the public service have to contend with a public that's never satisfied and often ungrateful and violent themselves...

> And to think....All these riots and destruction for a guy who wanted a pack of cigarettes he believed he could get by forgery while in a drunken or drugged stupor!...Oh and at 46 he was getting his life together.

285 posted on 05/29/2020 10:17:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Will the black community ever understand that he only way to avoid police violence is to quit committing crimes.

I’ve known many blacks that have never even seen police violence. But of course they are law abiding. Must be the difference.


287 posted on 05/29/2020 10:22:44 AM PDT by JayAr36 (Do you want to be a subject or a citizen.)
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To: caww
Cops aren't always fair

I always thought that fairness was the difference between getting a warning or getting a speeding ticket - you know officer's discretion, as in the #1 tool in law enforcement is public support. I never knew it applied to life and death.

Since the difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to be believable.... I give you a hypothetical:

Your son is home from college. Had a few beers in the afternoon and realized he needed some more... he also realized he is a little short of cash and says to himself, "I know someone who knows someone who wants that old bike of mine I never use anymore."

So, some stranger shows up and gives him a twenty for it. He goes to the convenience store (thinking he's okay to drive as most young folks do) and suddenly the clerk says it's a forgery... the clerk calls the cops.

Your son is really pissed and storms out of the store and gets mostly home when the cops pull him over. Neighbors start coming out from their backyards and a small crowd gathers.

Your son is irritated and the cops place him on the ground and one officer kneels on his neck as the neighbors yell for the cop to stop..even though your son is totally subdued on the ground the cop continues to put his full weight on your son's neck

Well, you get the picture. Nobody knew your son had a heart condition. He dies at the scene. He didn't die from lack of oxygen. The weight of the cop on his neck cut his blood flow and his heart gave out. Life ain't fair and neither are the police sometimes.

Not the cops fault... right. Good police procedure: Drunk... passing bad money... unknown heart condition.

I say the police should be held to the same damn stands as any other person. 'in fear of' for deadly force should apply as though any citizen used it for justification. Putting your knee on someone's neck after that person is subdued that relates to their death should have the same results as if anyone did it.

323 posted on 05/30/2020 7:38:00 AM PDT by Lagmeister
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