Posted on 06/01/2020 4:19:54 PM PDT by NautiNurse
MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) – Fox 9 reports that the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s report released Monday ruled the death of George Floyd a homicide.
The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by a law enforcement officer(s). Ex-Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is now charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter in connection to Floyd’s death.
Earlier Monday, the attorneys for the family of George Floyd shared the findings of their separate autopsy, which determined that Floyd died of “asphyxia from sustained pressure” on his neck and back.
The new Medical Examiner’s report also notes other significant conditions such as arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.
Last week, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office released a preliminary report in which it was determined that Floyd likely died from a combination of underlying health conditions, being restrained by police, and any potential intoxicants in his system.
There was reportedly no physical evidence that he died of asphyxia of strangulation.
Did Daniel Price die on live video, with numerous witnesses? Read the Probable Cause.
Depraved Indifference is the element for 3rd Degree in Minnesota.
Pulling out a can of mace to prevent bystanders from giving aid?
AND not doing CPR on a handcuffed guy in your custody, after one of your fellow cops has just told you (on video and in front of witnesses) that he doesn't have a pulse?
That's depraved indifference right there, regardless of what caused the heart to stop beating. You are irretrievably utterly and forever wrong.
The new Medical Examiner’s report also notes other significant conditions such as
arteriosclerotic
and hypertensive heart disease;
fentanyl intoxication;
and recent methamphetamine use.
Snip from our president at 6:43 eastern.
“All Americans were rightly sickened and revolted by the brutal death of George Floyd. My administration is fully committed that, for George and his family, justice will be served. He will not have died in vain. But we cannot allow the righteous cries and peaceful protesters to be drowned out by an angry mob. The biggest victims of the rioting are peace-loving citizens in our poorest communities, and as their President, I will fight to keep them safe. I will fight to protect you. I am your President of law and order, and an ally of all peaceful protesters.“
The question becomes, do you believe POTUS has seen all the videos, unedited and uncut? I believe he has, and I do not believe he liked what he saw.
He tells his fellow policeman who is kneeling on the guy's neck, hey, the guy doesn't have a pulse.
AT that point, continuing to restrain the guy is a civil rights violation.
But for the kneeling cop to pull out a can of mace to warn of bystanders attempting to give medical aid --
AND to keep his knee on the guy's neck for 2 minutes after he is told the guy has no pulse -- not by a rumor from Black Lives Matter 2 weeks later, not by Geraldo, not by an ambulance chasing lawyer speculating -- but by his fellow cop?
Minnesota Law says 3rd degree murder doesn't require intent. Just Depraved Indifference.
That is the dictionary definition right there.
Caught in real time by a 9-minute long uncut, uninterrupted, continuous, no-camera-tricks video taken in real time as it happened from 6 feet away.
And in front of several (white) witnesses, including a first responder who self-identifies as such and begs Mr.Kneecap to get off the guy and check for a pulse.
The ex-cop is toast.
The Constitution is supposed to protect us against this.
Why are you supporting it instead and on FREE REPUBLIC of all sites?
I’ve heard that theory. Dunno, that’s getting into conspiracy stuff which I avoid as much as possible. The fact that both worked at the same nightclub definitely makes one say Hmmmmm...
Depraved indifference is the legal term in the Probable Cause Document charging the ex-cop with 3rd degree murder and manslaughter. Intent is not an element under Minnesota Law.
One of the kneeling cop's partners, who had been helping to hold down the handcuffed guy, checks the guys pulse, and tells the kneeler, hey, he doesn't have a pulse.
The cop continues kneeling on his neck for another two minutes. Doesn't check for a pulse himself, doesn't start CPR -- and pulls out and brandishes a can of mace at a bystander who approaches, trying to help the dying man.
That's 3rd degree, depraved indifference, on a single uncut video, 9 minutes long, taken from six feet away, and referenced in the Probable Cause document.
Look when Mohammed Noor shot past his partner, inside the patrol car, to kill a woman in pajamas who had called 911 to report what sounded like a rape in progress, it took them 8 or 9 months to arrest him.
This guy got arrested in 3 or 4 days and his bond set at $500,000.
What part of "they have him down cold" are you so unwilling to face?
The Constitution was written to protect us against this kind of government treatment.
On a single uncut uninterrupted unedited no camera tricks video taken live at the time from about 6 feet away, and in front of several white witnesses, one of whom identifies herself as a first responder.
Depraved Indifference.
That's the element in Minnesota Law for 3rd degree murder.
No matter HOW the guys' heart stopped.
Re: Traumatic Asphyxiation
OK - I goofed.
I assumed that was a broad legal term that includes suffocation, compression in a small space, etc.
I did discover something interesting while researching.
From the Journal of Emergency Medical Services:
“Most EMS providers have never seen the injury [traumatic asphyxiation] due to its rarity.”
https://www.jems.com/2010/08/31/know-signs-and-symptoms-trauma/
Why would the Medical Examiner specifically mention an injury that is rare and is almost always caused by car accidents and heavy machinery?
The now-ex-policeman in jail on $500,000 bond and facing 3rd-degree murder and manslaughter (in Minnesota intent is not a requirement), has had 10 prior excessive force complaints against him in his 19-year career.
One of those was for shooting a guy going bezerk with a knife, so don't count that.
But the county attorney declined to pursue charges.
Guess who the county attorney was, for at least part of his career?
Amy Klobuchar, who is a Democrat US Senator from Minnesota.
Up until this happened, she was on the shortlist for VP on the Biden ticket.
Since one could argue her failure to go after this cop, left him on the streets, maybe there just might have been political pressure to take the heat off the policeman, so they wouldn't go digging into his past, and make *her* look bad?
This trial may be a battle of experts
= = =
And the jury will have to pay attention, understand, evaluate. Then factor in the OJ ‘influence.’
So maybe jury selection is the whole game.
This thread seems to be related to opinions and arguments about the truth and relevance of the evidence presented and action appropriateness of action so far in the George Floyd death.
As if any of that has much, if any relationship to the cause of the protests and riots that have been tearing our country apart for a week, now.
Let me be clear. This protest is not about a murder of a black man by four non-black men.
It IS about a government tyranny (Minneapolis Mayor, Police Department, County Attorney, Medical Examiner, State Governor, and more) who collectively and immediately jump to the defense of their own (The four policemen complicit in this murder). Only one has been arrested (2 or 3 days too late) and the other three are still free.
Trust me. If these four men were not policemen, they all would have been arrested immediately and still in jail today.
And we probably would not have suffered through the last week of enormously widespread riots.
“Why would the Medical Examiner specifically mention an injury that is rare and is almost always caused by car accidents and heavy machinery?”
That’s a particularly astute question to ask in this circumstance.
I think you’re only the second or third person other than me, that correctly pointed this out, since this whole sordid affair blew up.
I’m going to assume you sent this to me by mistake.
Busy thread.
Yes, indeed!
Thanks, whiskers.
Unfortunately, I’m getting the feeling that there still not nearly enough attention to this point.
Look at the mugshot and then look at the street photo. The street photo shows a square head, but the mugshot is bulbous.
I have read that he had 17 total complaints.
Only two resulted in punishment or reprimand, and those two were not excessive force complaints.
The only significant thing I see about this case is that the cop was white, and the criminal was Black.
If the cop was Black and the criminal was white, I would not care.
In my universe, a 45 year old white male who uses fentanyl and meth, who has heart disease and high blood pressure, who has a record of violent crime, who passes counterfeit money, and who resists arrest - that white man is personally responsible for whatever happens to him.
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