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To: White Lives Matter

The last time the Chinese military went on a month long exercise, it was halted after 5 days due to the generals not being able to control their troops discipline to where they had to give them a 5 day rest and relaxation period. Best first strike the us could do is to use a nuke on their single carrier at sea. Two more against the other two in dry dock, and strike Beijing itself.

We would not do such as the corporations wouldn’t make billions from the blood of our military.


13 posted on 05/15/2021 8:35:05 PM PDT by Bjorn218
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To: Bjorn218
Best first strike the us could do is to use a nuke on their single carrier at sea.

No, the Three Gorges Dam. That'd keep 'em busy for a while, and give them some comeuppance for their damned virus.

Of course with the current administration that's just wishful thinking.

33 posted on 05/15/2021 10:11:51 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Bjorn218

#13. Wouldn’t work. The two Red Chinese carriers in the dry docks are not real threats in and of themselves. Only the one at sea if it has nuclear weapons.

We could take it out in a second, but would have to deal with their mosquito swarm fleets of small military crafty with lots of missiles, some of which would get thru to hit our carriers/escorts.

Our best weapon is an EMP (Pulse) bomb over their C&C centers, esp. their nuclear missile sites. By crippling or destroying their communications and signals equipment, they would have a hard time getting off a counter-launch, unless they have secret underground/mountain sites we don’t know about.

That’s the same problem we have with the Russians and Iranians. It’s not what you see that is the major threat. It’s what “you don’t see” that is. Remember Cuba, 1962?


40 posted on 05/15/2021 11:22:45 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Bjorn218
Best first strike the us could do is to use a nuke on their single carrier at sea. Two more against the other two in dry dock, and strike Beijing itself.

No need for nukes. Either conventionally tipped missiles like the LRASM or torpedoes would quickly dispatch China’s carriers. We have a lot more at risk going nuclear than does China, even one high-altitude EMP burst over the US would be catastrophic. That is aside from the extreme risk of such a conflict escalating into a full exchange also involving Russia.

We need to sell Taiwan lots of SAMs and anti-ship missiles. Those would prevent a sea invasion, and allow Taiwan itself to be used as a (very large) aircraft carrier for allied aircraft as well. Missile defense against the DF-21 and other Chinese assets would be the biggest problem.

Presuming our planes could get into the fight with enough fuel, meaningful Chinese airpower would be gone in days. The PLAF and PLAN currently aren’t close to US air capability. The biggest unknown is how well the J-20 would perform in combat. Still, there are fewer than 100 of them.

BTW, the USAF moron who recently dismissed the F-35 as meaningful in a South China Sea confrontation was probably just bitter about the Marine’s F-35B, which would dominate the skies along with the F-22. STOVL F-35Bs are already operationally deployed on carriers. They’re also well suited to improvised airfields on Taiwan or other islands.

USAF F-35As flying out of Guam or Japan would need aerial refueling.

60 posted on 05/16/2021 7:18:59 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: Bjorn218

Hit the Three Gorges Dam and China will be in serious trouble.


100 posted on 07/21/2021 2:08:44 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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