... and one from humanized mice
Posted on 01/12/2022 5:47:53 AM PST by Red Badger
It's been the "silver bullet" that so many have embraced. But what do we really know about monoclonal antibodies? Are they really better than the vaccines or are they just another experiment that's bound to go awry?
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There’s an odd disconnect among many who are opposed to the Covid-19 “vaccines.” We generally pan the experimental drugs for a wide variety of reasons ranging from the clear health risks and lack of efficacy all the way to many conspiracy theories that the jabs are just tools for depopulation. Some are opposed for religious reasons. Others are opposed out of pure distrust of Big Pharma and their lap dogs in government.
Whatever the reason someone has for being a “vaccine skeptic,” there are many who then go and embrace the monoclonal antibodies being offered as a safe and effective treatment for Covid-19. This is where the disconnect comes into play because many of the characteristics that make people skeptical of the vaccines are present in the “safe and effective” monoclonal antibodies.
On the latest episode of The Midnight Sentinel, I was joined by Dr. Carrie Madej. It was actually quite challenging to isolate an individual topic to highlight in this article because she drops multiple bombshells in the hour-long interview. I chose the monoclonal antibodies topic because it may be the most pressing for those who are currently experiencing or may soon be experiencing the rapidly spreading Omicron variant.
“Even in the freedom movement, the ‘anti-vaxxers,’ people are against getting these injections or genetic modification devices, really, but then I see those same people run to get the monoclonal antibodies and I think, ‘Oh, you just have no idea,'” she said.
“First of all, they’re brand new, they’re experimental, they have very little research on them, okay,” she continued. “You’re putting something in your body that we don’t have research on. However, we know something about it.
“So, these are called a cocktail. So, what that is, they’re taking antibodies from three sources. One is just a ‘human source.’ What does that mean? Is it somebody from the street? I mean, what is that? Do we know if they’re purified? We don’t know. Okay, that’s one.
“Number two, they’re using aborted fetal cells. When they say they’re not, they’re lying. They’re using a play on words. They’re using the HEK line, the human embryotic kidney cell line. It’s 293. What that means is it took 293 … living babies that were born. So they aborted them alive. They’re still living with their heart beating. Then they take them to a cold lab and then they kill them there.
“It took 293 of them to get that cell line. So what they do is they make those lines cancerous so they never stop dividing. They don’t want to tell you they’re putting cancer cells from an aborted fetus in you so they’re going to tell you that it’s ‘immortalized’ — isn’t that a nice word. Then they tell you they’re cloned. That’s what it means. You’re taking in an aborted fetus that was killed in a lab and then you had a cancerous cell line from it that’s being injected inside of you. Okay, so you’ve got two sources.
“Now, the third one is from a human and a mouse genome pushed together inside of a mouse, and the mouse spits out a human kind of an antibody but from a mouse. So this is something called a chimera. A chimera is two creatures pushed together and they’re going to be spitting out an antibody.
“Now, you have to understand, all the genetic material that a human body takes up, whether we eat it, whether we inhale it, we become injected with it… our bodies are amazing. It takes up genetic material to analyze it, sometimes incorporate it inside our genome. It’s called epigenetics.”
Even at this point of the interview, I was having concerns about the monoclonal antibodies based on the information I was hearing. But it was during the next portion of Dr. Madej’s answer that I became truly shocked.
“There’s a problem also with the human-mouse antibody cell line,” she continued. “It has a trade name called VelocImmune. So, I knew this, I recognized this from years ago when I had a very big practice here in Georgia. I took different cases, complicated, and of course I got cancer patients. Well, many of them were breast cancer patients that were put on a newer chemotherapy agent immunotherapy.
“And they use this same mouse-human line. It’s called VelocImmune, okay. So they took that line and they put this in this chemo-agent. At first, the people looked great. These women were doing wonderfully. ‘I feel good. My tumor shrank.’
“And then what happened within one to three years? Sometimes five but usually one to three years there was an allergic reaction, they called it, and a woman would come back loaded with cancer. All the organs looked like they had melted together. I couldn’t, nor could the radiologist, tell one organ from another. So, it was a fulminant, terrible reaction. This was a failure.
“They’re going to use the same mouse line on people right now. This is horrifying because, although people are only getting one or two of these doses, not many, this can’t be good.”
No, it definitely cannot be good.
As a journalist, it behooves me to always get a second opinion, so I asked some of my sources to verify Dr. Madej’s claims. They checked out with flying colors. In fact, the HEK293T cell line she referred to was also used to develop the Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines. Stories I read about the cell line on corporate media sites went out of their way to say they definitely did not come from aborted fetal cells even as they admitted that they originated from “donated” fetal cells. It was actually comical seeing the “play on words” Dr. Madej had mentioned in action.
The interview continued to reveal other extremely important information. We even had opportunities to talk about the Bible, a refreshing shift from my normal interviews with other doctors. It was one of my most enjoyable interviews, which is probably why it lasted the full hour.
As I’ve said many times, my preferred regimen is exercise, healthy eating, sunlight, and Dr. Zelenko’s Z-Stack protocol (use promo code “Freedom” for a discount, in case you want to join me in taking the nutraceuticals). While we didn’t discuss the nutraceuticals specifically, Dr. Madej was all onboard with everything else we’re doing to improve our immunity.
It isn’t often I tell people that they NEED to watch a particular interview, but this is clearly one of those rare instances. Dr. Madej’s advice may be life-saving for many.
VIDEO AT LINK..................................
Ok, who is Dr. Carrie Madej and what are her credentials?
“HEK 293 cells were generated in 1973 by transfection of cultures of normal human embryonic kidney cells with sheared adenovirus 5 DNA in Alex van der Eb’s laboratory in Leiden, the Netherlands.”
“They are called HEK since they originated in human embryonic kidney cultures, while the number 293 came from Graham’s habit of numbering his experiments; the original HEK 293 cell clone was from his 293rd experiment.”
“A comprehensive study of the genomes and transcriptomes of HEK 293 and five derivative cell lines compared the HEK 293 transcriptome with that of human kidney, adrenal, pituitary and central nervous tissue. The HEK 293 pattern most closely resembled that of adrenal cells, which have many neuronal properties. Given the location of the adrenal gland (adrenal means “next to the kidney”), a few adrenal cells could plausibly have appeared in an embryonic kidney derived culture, and could be preferentially transformed by adenovirus. Adenoviruses transform neuronal lineage cells much more efficiently than typical human kidney epithelial cells. An embryonic adrenal precursor cell therefore seems the most likely origin cell of the HEK 293 line.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells
Perhaps the pharmaceutical industry should try to develop a new cell line from miscarriage adrenal tissue.
She’s one doctor the left really hates:
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-pseudoscience/madej-madness
She has valid arguments on the MAB issue IMO.
I’ve wondered the same.
Monoclonal antibodies are big business (>$150 billion in 2020):
Obamacare might also be called Monoclonal Antibody Industry Care.
Demons come in all shapes and sizes. They take their orders from the father of lies. I pay no attention to them.
hypersensitivity reactions are quite possible after injections:
That webpage has links to fact sheets for patients and providers.
Thanks; lots of information in the link.
My wife had an adverse reaction from the Monoclonal Antibodies when she caught Covid. Five minutes into the treatment she passed out so she was unable to complete it. She did recover however on her own.
So the left has Trump compromised on the vaccines and now DeSantis compromised on these things. The doctors description of how this stuff is obtained using aborted babies is revolting.
Instead of going to war long ago for hydrochloriquine, Ivermectin, and other effective treatments, they cower and play politics with American lives. They all suck.
bkmk . . . ?
Ok, who is Dr. Carrie Madej and what are her credentials?
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Dr. Carrie L. Madej is an internist in Forest Park, Georgia. She received her medical degree from Kansas City University of Medicine and Biosciences College of Osteopathic Medicine and has been in practice between 11-20 years.
Medical School & Residency
Atrium Health Navicent The Medical Center
Residency, Internal Medicine
The Medical Center Inc
Internship, Transitional Year
Kansas City University of Medicine and Biosciences College of Osteopathic Medicine
Medical School
Certifications & Licensure
GA State Medical License
Active through 2023
Awards, Honors & Recognitions
CMS Stage 1 EHR, 2012
CMS Stage 1 EHR, 2013
Guest speaker for multiple shows, 2014
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/carrie-madej-201290
It may be necessary to shoot Mr. Home Invader dead, but it is not hypocrisy to try to avoid doing so by say retreating into a safe room.
It is not hypocrisy to avoid using fetal cell contaminated products as long as possible.
More info on monoclonals:
They use 2 groups of antibodies - one from humans who have recovered from Covid and one from humanized mice (https://www.pharmafocusasia.com/clinical-trials/human-antibody-discovery).
How they humanized the mice is concerning to me. I know they use human DNA, but it was not clear if they used fetal DNA.
Consider this study (one of the authors is Regeneron):
A novel humanized mouse model with significant improvement of class-switched, antigen-specific antibody production
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006497120336673
“Transplantation of human hematopoietic progenitor cells into mice
Fetal liver samples were obtained from the Human Fetal Tissue Repository at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY, and from Advanced Biosciences Resources, Alameda, CA. Tissues were cut in small fragments, treated for 45 minutes at 37°C with Collagenase D (100 ng/mL; Roche) and a cell suspension was prepared. Human CD34+ cells were purified by density gradient centrifugation, followed by positive immunomagnetic selection using anti-human CD34+ microbeads (Miltenyi Biotec). Newborn pups were sublethally irradiated with 180 cGy and 100 000 CD34+ cells were injected into the liver. The mice were bled 8 to 10 weeks post-engraftment to check for the reconstitution of the human immune system. More than 20 fetal liver samples were used and the same donor sample was transplanted for both human IL-6–positive and negative recipients to exclude variations that related to the donor. All experiments were performed in compliance with Yale University Human Investigation Committee protocol and Yale Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee protocols.”
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Does that mean that this was the same process used to humanize the mice used for monoclonals? Not necessarily. But it does give me pause and has me question the ethics of the company making them.
“After reading this article I sit and wonder ‘what have I done?’”
Really. Didn’t know about the fetal cells. Who knew?
The Indian COVAXIN vaccine was not created or made with human fetal cells.
The FDA or Congress could approve this vaccine, now used in Mexico, this very day and most religious objections would not apply to it.
It has typical Covid vaccine administration side effects.
... and one from humanized mice
Congress, the FDA, CDC and the Media are in the back pockets of Big Pharma. They are not going to approve anything from the competition...........
They might even be able to coax umbilical blood cells to become pluripotent stem cell and bypass the need for fetal cells.
Some ethical cell scientist might work on that pathway.
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