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Scientific 'Integrity'
townhall.com ^ | 8/24/2022 0001 hrs edt | John Stossel

Posted on 08/24/2022 8:06:36 AM PDT by rktman

"Trust the science," say the media.

Polls show that fewer Americans do. There's good reason for that.

"They don't trust science because science is increasingly untrustworthy," says science writer Andrew Follet in my new video. "The only group that trusts science right now is Democrats."

Sixty-four percent of Democrats have "a great deal" of confidence in the scientific community, compared to 34% of Republicans.

Of course, true science -- using the scientific method -- is important. But that's not what much of "science" is these days.

Instead, today government science is misused by progressive politicians.

Example 1: Environmental activists want to limit commercial fishing. They want Congress to pass what they call the "Ocean-Based Climate Solutions Act." It claims climate change is the "greatest threat to America's national security" and offers a dubious solution: close more of the ocean to commercial fishing.

The administration's deputy director of Climate, Jane Lubchenco, told Congress that a scientific paper concludes that closing more of the ocean can actually increase catches of fish.

Really? That doesn't seem logical.

It isn't. The paper was retracted. One scientist called its logic "biologically impossible."

Also, Lubchenco's didn't tell Congress that the paper was written by her brother-in-law! And edited by her!

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


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Perhaps we should wait until Mr.Science himself weighs in. Anyone seen herr doktor fauxnocchio? He should be able to set this straight.
1 posted on 08/24/2022 8:06:36 AM PDT by rktman
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I trust Science itself as an ideal, I don't trust Scientists or the Politicians, Companies or Interest groups who pay their research grants to produce the exact answers that they paid for.

2 posted on 08/24/2022 8:12:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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3 posted on 08/24/2022 8:13:35 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: rktman

Science is fine

Its “science” in the hands of liars, politicians, and media hacks that is the problem.


4 posted on 08/24/2022 8:15:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: rktman
Perhaps we should wait until Mr.Science himself weighs in.

Oh, I thought you meant bill nye, the failed comedian masquerading as "the science guy".

5 posted on 08/24/2022 8:16:24 AM PDT by pfflier
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No, we still trust science. What the sane among us no longer trust is what leftist tyrants and their groupies falsely trot out as science and scientists. Tyrants and stupid people can’t redefine the true meaning of the word just because they want to.


6 posted on 08/24/2022 8:16:37 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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7 posted on 08/24/2022 8:16:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: rktman

I trust “The Science”

I trust “The Politicians”

I trust “the Parma Companies”

I trust “the big banks”

I trust “all the three letter gov’t agencies”


8 posted on 08/24/2022 8:16:52 AM PDT by algore
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A ridiculous paper, "Embracing Fatness as Self-Care in the Era of Trump," was accepted by Massey University's "Fat Studies" conference. The conference then invited the paper's author, "Sea Matheson," to speak. Attendees gave Matheson's speech rave reviews, praising the paper's description of Donald Trump's "fatphobia" and inviting Matheson to review other work submitted to their "scientific" journal, Fat Studies: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Body Weight and Society. But Matheson is no scientist. "She" is actually comedian Steven Crowder, who disguised himself as an overweight woman to expose "ivory tower quackery."

Hilarious. I don't know how Stephen Crowder keeps a straight face when he punks these people.

9 posted on 08/24/2022 8:18:00 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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10 posted on 08/24/2022 8:19:35 AM PDT by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%> )
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The hard sciences have been corrupted by activist's money and are no longer objective. Scientists have found that biasing their professional opinions can bring in money from leftist institutions and individuals that they wouldn't get if they remained objective and unbiased. Scientists will only remain trusted if they keep politics out of their professional lives, but it's a rare one that does that today. That's led to the diminishment of trust in the hard sciences by most rational people today.

If you want your word to be trusted, don't try to push BS political agendas in pursuit of money, it's that simple.

11 posted on 08/24/2022 8:21:25 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: Huskrrrr

You could have posted a pic of fauxnocchio and we would have gotten the idea. 😂👍 But, thanks. Good guide. Sadly it could cause some folks to NOT receive grant money if adhered to.


12 posted on 08/24/2022 8:21:42 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Yeah, you’d have to be some special sort of moron to not trust science. Like not trusting that gravity will work tomorrow when you get up.

There is nothing wrong with science. What we are seeing out of the commie trash in the MSM/politicos/etc is a corrupt twisting of facts that is called science.

This is deliberate and a win/win. 1st, the gullible morons will believe any sort of lie if it is stamped “science”. Then 2nd, when most folks (the non-morons) note the corruption of still another English word, the commie trash have destroyed another system/establishment. Don’t forget, the goal of the C-T is total power, and that can/will be achieved if you do not defend your systems.


13 posted on 08/24/2022 8:22:20 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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Can’t these fake papers be treated as confidence scams. They are done for money.


14 posted on 08/24/2022 8:22:44 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: BitWielder1

As a scientist I have tried to replicate many expired patent filings to come up with new products (most patents are never used, much less make money).

Off the top of my head I guess half of the experiments described in the patent literature can be successfully replicated.

Some are complete and utter BS. Why someone spent money to file is beyond me (unless some were simply blocking patents).


15 posted on 08/24/2022 8:23:55 AM PDT by packagingguy
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The foundation of science is the unimpeded search for truth--truth for its own sake--and the acceptance of truth whatever it might be and wherever it may present itself.

This is the foundation of Western Civilization and all the miracles it has wrought.

In the decadent phase of Western Civilization, truth is held in contempt.

Contempt for truth is the evil most fundamental to the decadence of Western Civilization.

16 posted on 08/24/2022 8:24:36 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Americans DESPISE the corrupt elites, their media toadies and their corruption of the US government!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10647851/Steven-Crowder-poses-activist-presents-paper-Fatness-self-care-era-Trump.html

Link to article on fat studies, lol


17 posted on 08/24/2022 8:28:47 AM PDT by algore
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I think one of the problems is that people conflate science with the opinions of scientists. Or they believe that offhand conclusions drawn on the basis of a specific experimental result are themselves scientific analysis.


18 posted on 08/24/2022 8:29:16 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I saw a study from a few years back suggesting up to 50% of published experiments were not reproduceable. There’s a great pressure to publish in academia if one wants to get ahead, and if a particular experiment doesn’t work out there’s a temptation on the part of the researchers to falsify their data in order to get it published.


19 posted on 08/24/2022 8:29:23 AM PDT by jimwatx
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“Science” was never intended as something to be trusted or untrusted. It is a method of doing things, like knitting a sweater. Do you always “trust the knitting”? It depends upon the skill of the knitter, or the intentions of the knitter. Bad knitting is something to be avoided if possible, but it happens.


20 posted on 08/24/2022 8:32:23 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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