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Wholesale used car prices plummet as retail prices soar
The Hill ^ | 11/07/2022 | TOBIAS BURNS

Posted on 11/07/2022 9:29:05 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The wholesale price of used cars is falling off a cliff while the prices that car shoppers are paying is way up, suggesting dealers are making a killing while consumers are taking a bath.

Wholesale used car prices declined 2 percent from September in the first half of October and are down 10.3 percent from a year ago, according to The Manheim Used Vehicle Index published on Monday.

Wholesale used luxury car prices are down 13.5 percent while used sport utility vehicles are down 12.3 percent and pickup trucks are down 8.4 percent.

Meanwhile, the retail price that car shoppers are paying for used cars has increased 7.2 percent since last year, according to the Department of Labor’s latest consumer price index.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; car; prices; retail; wholesale
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I saw a 2019 Camry online with 119,000 miles going for 20K!
1 posted on 11/07/2022 9:29:05 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Not a good time to buy a used car. With high gas prices and high interest rates I give it a year before they can’t find buyers and retail will plummet. Only the desperate are buying cars now.


2 posted on 11/07/2022 9:32:18 AM PST by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Retail Used Car Prices are UP!......................


3 posted on 11/07/2022 9:32:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That is considered ‘Low Mileage’ nowadays..............


4 posted on 11/07/2022 9:33:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In the middle of covid, right at the height of the car shortage, my son totalled my SUV... and the insurance company gave me nearly twice what it was worth before Covid! I couldn’t believe it. Then if that wasn’t lucky enough, I was able to get literally the only car on the new car lot (that just came off the truck) for a deal!


5 posted on 11/07/2022 9:34:10 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How about classics?

Any FReepers looking for a 1970 Buick Estate Wagon, complete and running?


6 posted on 11/07/2022 9:35:11 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This is one reason I was willing to spend extra to buy an EV. I needed to replace my wife’s car, we were looking at buying her yet another used car like the two of us have driven during our marriage, but used car prices this year were way up. I was looking at spending at least $10K for the kind of car I recently spent $5K to $6K for.


7 posted on 11/07/2022 9:36:44 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: fwdude

Wood trim?


8 posted on 11/07/2022 9:37:35 AM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Red Badger

I have not bought a new car in 30 years. Certainly not because I can’t afford it but always had good luck buying low mileage used.

The last car I bought was 18 years ago.....A 2004 Cadillac SRX. Best car I’ve ever owned. Looks like I’ll be waiting a bit longer to replace it.


9 posted on 11/07/2022 9:38:04 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The wholesale price of used cars is falling off a cliff while the prices that car shoppers are paying is way up, suggesting dealers are making a killing while consumers are taking a bath.

Which doesn't take into account the lack of new cars to sell.

Dealer's got to make money somewhere, and if he can't move hundreds of new cars a month due to lack of inventory, then he's going to move hundreds of used cars instead.

10 posted on 11/07/2022 9:38:50 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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“…I was able to get literally the only car on the new car lot (that just came off the truck) for a deal!”
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You must be the only person in America getting a “deal” on a new car. That truck it came from didn’t by chance come from an area in Florida that was recently flooded in that hurricane? 🙀🙀


11 posted on 11/07/2022 9:39:02 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This shows what happens when some idiot from ‘The Hill’ writes an article on something he knows nothing about.

I’ve only been a sales mgr at a new car store since 1990.

The reason you’re seeing retail prices stay high, while auction prices drop is that with the numbers of used cars still being short, nothing goes to the auction except absolute crap. In all my life, I’ve probably sent back a dozen cars to the auction that had issues. Now about half that you buy get sent back, mechanical issues, undisclosed bodywork, they’re a mess.

The good ones aren’t going to auction.


12 posted on 11/07/2022 9:39:10 AM PST by allwrong57
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To: traderrob6

Your next car will be electric....................


13 posted on 11/07/2022 9:39:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dealers won’t make a killing for long. Cars aren’t food - you don’t have to buy a car no matter what the price. People will hold onto their old cars longer. The subset of people who absolutely have to buy a car is small. And cars diminish in value each year so dealers will be incentivized to reduce prices if cars don’t sell at high prices. What this suggests is that dealers have better market knowledge and scooped up underpriced cars before consumers did. But they won’t make a killing.


14 posted on 11/07/2022 9:40:11 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: calljack

Yes. Faded, but wood trim intact.


15 posted on 11/07/2022 9:40:38 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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Any FReepers looking for a 1970 Buick Estate Wagon, complete and running?

Unfortunately the 1970 model was prior to the rearward facing last seat that someone might need for the tail gunner.

16 posted on 11/07/2022 9:40:46 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: ProudDeplorable
Not a good time to buy a used car. With high gas prices and high interest rates I give it a year before they can’t find buyers and retail will plummet. Only the desperate are buying cars now.

The low end (20 year old cars) are not as badly affected for the most part, especially if you choose wisely. Old used pickup trucks stay stubbornly high, though.
17 posted on 11/07/2022 9:40:51 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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Unfortunately the 1970 model was prior to the rearward facing last seat that someone might need for the tail gunner.

Too true.

18 posted on 11/07/2022 9:41:25 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I saw a 2003 Tacoma with 139K miles and the guy is asking $15,000


19 posted on 11/07/2022 9:42:57 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“Powell’s public remarks offer little insight into how he expects higher rates to tame inflation,” UBS economist Paul Donovan wrote in the Financial Times last week. That’s important because “today’s price inflation is more a product of profits than wages.”

“Companies have passed higher costs on to customers. But they have also taken advantage of circumstances to expand profit margins. The broadening of inflation beyond commodity prices is more profit market expansion than wage cost pressures,” Donovan wrote. Found this BS buried at the bottom. There may be an element of this, but grocery stores are not excessively gouging customers to drive inflation (for instance) and ridiculous grocery prices up. Gas stations and oil companies are not gouging.

20 posted on 11/07/2022 9:43:04 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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