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A second firm hired by Trump campaign found no evidence of election fraud
WaPo ^ | 04/27/2023 | Josh Dawsey

Posted on 04/27/2023 1:31:45 PM PDT by semimojo

Former president Trump’s campaign quietly commissioned a second firm to study election fraud claims in the weeks after the 2020 election, and the founder of the firm was recently questioned by the Justice Department about his work disproving the claims.

Ken Block, founder of the firm Simpatico Software Systems, studied more than a dozen voter fraud theories and allegations for Trump’s campaign in late 2020 and found they were “all false,” he said in an interview with The Washington Post.

“No substantive voter fraud was uncovered in my investigations looking for it, nor was I able to confirm any of the outside claims of voter fraud that I was asked to look at,” he said. “Every fraud claim I was asked to investigate was false.”

Block said he recently received a subpoena from special counsel Jack Smith’s office and met with federal prosecutors in Washington, but he declined to discuss his interactions with them. Block said he contemporaneously sent his findings disputing fraud claims in writing to the Trump campaign in late 2020...

Prosecutors are trying to show that Trump and his advisers definitively knew — or had good reason to believe — that their myriad fraud claims were false as they continued to spread and fundraise off the claims. The claims ultimately convinced many voters the election was stolen and inspired rioters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The falsehoods also brought in more than $250 million to Trump and his allies.

Key to building such a case, experts say, is proving that Trump and other advisers making the claims publicly did not believe them or had evidence to know they were false.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: thefactor
I don’t know where you got that quote, but it’s either dishonest or just wrong. The way turnout is calculated, 2020 saw a 66.8% turnout, not 92%.

“There were 168 million registered voters in 2020. Trump received over 74 million votes, and if the vote count can be believed, Biden received 81 million votes. That’s a total of 155 million votes cast. That’s a 92% turnout!! The average turnout for a presidential election in this country has been between 55%-62%. That alone is grounds to believe the 2020 election was fixed!!”

Well I looked at his numbers. If he is correct that there are 168 million REGISTERED voters, then 81 + 74 does equal 155, and 155 *IS* 92% of 168.

How do you calculate turnout versus registered voters and come up with 66%?

Found this:

The Census Bureau reported in April 2021 that its surveys found 168,308,000 registered voters, and 154,628,000 votes cast in the 2020 election.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/04/06/fact-check-were-there-more-votes-than-registered-voters-2020/9469305002/

121 posted on 04/27/2023 5:04:40 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

We use a secret ballot in this country, so the rigging is built into the system.

An honest system would have a name and address on the ballot, but the voter would still be able to check the boxes in the privacy of a voting booth.

All mailed ballots should have a name & address on the ballot as well.


122 posted on 04/27/2023 5:06:47 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Consider the source of this article: the Washington Post, a house organ of the Washington establishment for many decades. Its credibility is on a par with Joe Isuzu or an old time snake oil salesman. Who is this firm that issued the no fraud opinion, who owns them, and who are the executives?

Anybody who accepts the information on an unquestioning basis in the Washington Post article is blue pilled.

123 posted on 04/27/2023 5:07:30 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: DiogenesLamp

I did in fact. I have a general rule. If your web site is filled with typos, I lose interest pretty fast. It tells me you’re sloppy and don’t pay attention to detail. And it really hurts credibility.


124 posted on 04/27/2023 5:07:52 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: CodeToad; Vermont Lt
You always have been a liberal troll, idiot.

He's not a troll and he's not an idiot. He's living up there in the Northeast and he's surrounded by people who are a lot more liberal than he is, and he's probably inundated with liberal viewpoints and so he's rightly skeptical of things people say from more conservative parts of the country.

I've argued with him many times in the past, and I do not doubt his integrity or his intelligence. He just has a different exposure to data than we have.

We should just do as good of a job as we can to articulate our positions and provide information that is as reliable as we can find it.

125 posted on 04/27/2023 5:10:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo
Trump trusted “The Deep State” to advocate locking everyone down. Guess what, ballot harvesting ran rampant and was LEGAL in a lot of municipalities. Add voting by mail and you got Biden while the Trump admin was busy doing narcissistic stage productions, as legal ballots via drop boxes were hoisting their vanities on there own petard. Where was the strategic planning at? Answer, boasting about accomplishments in packed crowds while dems were going in for the kill.

Trump constantly got bamboozled by the bureaucracy. My guess is he probably favors 1/2 of what the Deep State does since he enjoyed deficit spending and debt policies up the ying/yang. Talks tough, but carried that Federal Credit card with high interest everywhere he went. Oh, he cut taxes, big freaking deal, my great, great, great gran kids are still on the hook for his spending policies, just like all those other cult of personalities people fall prey too. Populism stinks just like pragmatic “sages” are pathways to ruin.

The spigots must stop while there is some sense of structures in place to rebuild. Even conservatives think they deserve gibsmethats based on a con grifters imposed on them via SS. We are all hypocrites, including Trump.

126 posted on 04/27/2023 5:14:15 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: bigdaddy45
I did in fact. I have a general rule. If your web site is filled with typos, I lose interest pretty fast. It tells me you’re sloppy and don’t pay attention to detail. And it really hurts credibility.

I believe it was Andrew Jackson who said:

"It's a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at at least two ways to spell any word."

127 posted on 04/27/2023 5:14:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Wallace T.

I did IT for over 30 years no “glitch” could do that.


128 posted on 04/27/2023 5:34:26 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy
It happened in Antrim County, next one over from where I live. If I recall, the machine took 2500 votes from Trump and added them to the Biden count.

Oops! Just a glitch! Human error! Nothing to see here!

129 posted on 04/27/2023 5:34:32 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: sima_yi

Try finding that story. It is completely scrubbed.


130 posted on 04/27/2023 5:35:42 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: thefactor

Ah... ridicule. You have studied your ‘tard manual well.


131 posted on 04/27/2023 5:50:13 PM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Voter turnout is, and always has been, calculated by comparing total votes to ELIGIBLE voters, not REGISTERED voters.

There are 231 million eligible voters in the US.

132 posted on 04/27/2023 5:55:16 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: bigdaddy45

Oh man... damn the luck. If only everything was technically perfect and.... well, then you prolly wouldn’t like the formatting. Jeesh, why is the font so small... OH DAMN, an Oxford comma!.... daddy out...

The rona ‘tards act like this too.

I saw one of those dumb-asses actually request death certificates one time.

But if it’s all you got, I guess you gotta go to war with it, right? Damn sure can’t acknowledge any evidence XD XD XD


133 posted on 04/27/2023 6:00:17 PM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Sarcazmo
Yes, I ridicule because that is the only rational reaction to the trumpers.

Trumpers have no proof of widespread election fraud. They simply scream "THEY CHEATED!" and will not listen to any counter argument.

Here we have a firm hired by Trump confirming what we've already known, and these people still say it's not possible that Trump lost. There is literally nothing that will ever convince them Trump lost 2020. So ridicule is all that remains.

134 posted on 04/27/2023 6:00:50 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Is it possible Trump was so hated that his enemies came out in such force to vote against him in greater numbers than they voted for Obama in 2008? I don’t think so and I think anyone who thinks Biden got 81 million votes needs to explain rationality, logically and scientifically.


135 posted on 04/27/2023 6:03:55 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: fwdude

You forget the original point. A chart of unofficial media vote totals is useless. It is not evidence of anything, just that you found it entertaining.


136 posted on 04/27/2023 6:04:12 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: thefactor

Ridicule, with a dash of seething hatred. You can’t hide it factor. But we all see it.

Regarding the fraud, we all saw that too. On video. Forensically. Empirically. Statistically.

See, the problem you have is that you are trying to tell people not to believe their own two eyes. But we all saw it, plain as day. You and your ilk may be able to ‘splain a few things, but when you try to ‘splain 50 things... well, you start sounding like Squeeler. We all see right through that... :)


137 posted on 04/27/2023 6:09:40 PM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Sarcazmo

Yes, of course. You saw something in grainy video from behind a gymnasium somewhere in Arizona that hundreds of high-priced lawyers and Republican election observers and officials and judges missed. You and the rest of the “they cheated” crowd. It’s so boring and sad. He lost. Move on. But you can’t. You want another loss in 2024. You’re addicted to losing.


138 posted on 04/27/2023 6:29:18 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Lisbon1940
Trump was lousy in picking firms to commission. Next time he would pick better firms.

He just needs to hire the My Pillow guy.

Then he'll get the answers he wants.

139 posted on 04/27/2023 6:33:58 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024. A real conservative.)
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To: thefactor

Hopping from side to side enthusiastically ‘splainin.

Keep on... but it’s all for naught.

I do get it. The first rule of the con... never, ever, no matter what, ever, for any reason, under any circumstance.... give up the con.

We see you.


140 posted on 04/27/2023 7:43:14 PM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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