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The Legalization Of Polygamy Was Always The Logical Consequence Of Obergefell
The Federalist ^ | 05/26/2023 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 05/26/2023 4:33:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

If marriage is possible between any two individuals, then why not three, four, or any number of consenting adults, regardless of their sex?

In 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court decided the landmark case of Obergefell v. Hodges, legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states and the District of Columbia by a 5-4 vote. Justice Anthony Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinion for the case, didn’t seem to believe that the issue of polyamory could possibly be relevant or arise due to the court’s decision. Just eight years later, The New York Times published an article last week that celebrated Somerville, Massachusetts, as a haven for legal polyamory.

A haven for academics and hippies, the Boston suburb adopted an ordinance in 2020 granting domestic partnership rights to people in polyamorous relationships. That was followed up this spring by the passage of two more laws “extending the rights of nonmonogamous residents,” banning discrimination on the basis of “family or relationship structure” in city employment and policing. The Somerville City Council is currently considering extending the reach of that law to housing. And as the Times reports, the “nonmonogamous” are no longer unusual there.

Somerville is, in the words of one of its municipal councilors, “a very queer city.” And as the Times also makes clear, “there is a significant crossover between those who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans and pansexual and those who practice nonmonogamy, according to multiple studies.”

As the Times also points out, polyamory is a staple of popular entertainment via shows like “Planet Sex with Cara Delevingne” and “Sex Diaries.” The same is true for polygamy, which was the subject of the hit HBO show “Big Love” from 2006 to 2011, and a reality show about an actual polygamous family, “Sister Wives,” which is still running after 13 seasons.

Surely, the widespread introduction of gay characters and couples into popular TV shows and films helped pave the way for Obergefell. Supporters of “nonmonogamous” relationships believe the same process is underway for their cause. But as much as the Times story on Somerville is an indication that the arbiters of fashionable left-wing opinion agree with that conclusion, it is worth remembering that at the time the gay marriage ruling was handed down, both the majority opinion and liberals cheering it sought to assure the nation that its implications were limited.

The decision was based on the claim that marriage “equality” was rooted in the due process and equal protection clauses of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. The right of two people of the same sex to the benefits of government-approved marriage was, according to the five-justice majority and the rest of enlightened opinion, no less compelling than those of two of the opposite sex.

In their view, the traditional conception of marriage as a union of one man and one woman that dates back to the beginnings of civilization was antithetical to the law’s guarantee of equal protection to all. Any objections to this principle were deemed to be rooted in religion and not the secular laws of the United States.

Yet as Chief Justice John Roberts noted in his dissent, there was a problem. “Much of the majority’s reasoning” in support of same-sex marriage “would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage.” Indeed, as Justice Samuel Alito had said during the case’s oral arguments, those who claimed the equal protection clause demanded that the law recognize same-sex marriage between two people could not reasonably explain on what grounds a state could deny a marriage license to a foursome of two men and two women.

Kennedy’s opinion waxed lyrical about the benefits of marriage, but he seemed to take it for granted that no reasonable person would assume his claims would apply to any union other than that of two persons. Pundits like Slate’s William Saletan backed him up, arguing that any effort to argue to the contrary was a way to delegitimize gay marriage by comparing it to polygamy and polyamory that were outrageous and clearly beyond the pale.

But the Somerville City Council begs to differ. And though the laws it has passed are antithetical to the foundational principles of Western civilization as well as the best interests of families and children, they are right to think that what they have done is the logical and inevitable consequence of Obergefell.

Kennedy’s opinion included many elements that can be construed as arguing against extending the right of marriage to more than two consenting adults. He championed the idea of such unions being immutable and the avoidance of loneliness, arguing it would be wrong to exclude gay couples from the legal benefits of marriage. He also emphasized the importance of fidelity and devotion to another person and the avoidance of conflict in long-term relationships. All of these arguments could just as easily be applied to unions that involve more than two people. Any assertion to the contrary would, like the argument against gay marriage, be rooted in those same religious and traditional ideas that Obergefell rejected.

If marriage is possible between any two individuals of the opposite or the same sex, then why not three, four, or any number of consenting adults, regardless of their sex? And if Somerville is the harbinger of a growing movement to legalize polyamorous and inevitably polygamous marriages by cities and ultimately states, then those who will defend such laws are on firm ground declaring that the logic of Obergefell demands that all non-traditional ideas about marriage must be treated equally under the law. This is the choice America made in 2015.

Polygamy is still practiced in the Muslim world and is even quietly tolerated among some Muslim immigrant communities in the United States. Likely today most liberal politicians would say they are opposed to polygamy because it is a vestige of bad ancient patriarchal societies. But so long as American law rejects traditional marriage as a valid definition, they have no leg to stand on to deny it to groups of consenting men and women or persons who define themselves in some other manner.

There is little appetite among conservatives to challenge gay marriage since it is now broadly popular. But as Roberts and Alito’s concerns are being validated by events in the culture and in places like Somerville, it will be impossible to prevent efforts to broaden the definition of marriage to conform to those accepted in queer culture without also questioning Obergefell’s logic.

Marriage and the creation of families based on the traditional definition involving one man and one woman is part of the foundation of our civilization. The same movement that is driving events in Somerville and elsewhere aims to destroy the traditional family. In its place, they wish to elevate the nihilism of cultural Marxism. And in a nation where President Biden has declared that support for the transgender cult that targets children and families is “the civil rights issue of our time,” no one should doubt that legal polyamory and polygamy are just around the corner.

As politically perilous as a relitigation of Obergefell might be, reversal of that trend would require a willingness to champion traditional values about families, sex, and marriage that would call its validity into question.

This wouldn’t be necessary if, as Kennedy and Saletan hoped at the time, gay marriage was the end of the debate. But it isn’t the end, and unless we are prepared to acquiesce to living in a country where practices such as polyamory and polygamy — which are so toxic to culture and families — can thrive, Obergefell is the battleground on which we will ultimately be dragged by the Times and the queer city of Somerville.


Jonathan S. Tobin is a senior contributor to The Federalist, editor in chief of JNS.org, and a columnist for Newsweek.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: legalization; marriage; obergefell; polygamy
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1 posted on 05/26/2023 4:33:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And Marrying CHILDREN and ANIMALS is NEXT! SATAN is alive and well in the USA!


2 posted on 05/26/2023 4:40:40 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would RATHER have polygamy than all this trans and homo stuff.


3 posted on 05/26/2023 4:41:07 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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Just imagine how awesome it would be to be able to double the nagging and triple the length of the honeydo list


4 posted on 05/26/2023 4:46:54 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: SeekAndFind

Govt shouldn’t be sanctioning any marriages in a nation where all are to be treated equally under the law.

Although I did enjoy an entire day of chuckling recently thx to overhearing a woman complaining abt her wife.


5 posted on 05/26/2023 4:57:51 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Ann Archy

May 18, 2023CV NEWS FEED // On May 9, the Connecticut House of Representatives passed a bill that would effectively expand the definition of discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation to include “discrimination” against so-called “minor-attracted persons.”. H.B. 6638
Drip drip drip…
They’re coming after the kids.


6 posted on 05/26/2023 4:57:54 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: SeekAndFind

Polygamy? More than one Mother-in-law? Who wants that?


7 posted on 05/26/2023 4:59:23 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (81 million votes my ass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Consenting adults” — that will go out the window as soon as any polygamy is legalized. There demons play the long game and mastered creeping incrementalism.


8 posted on 05/26/2023 5:00:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Sorry, you get the whole package. You don’t get to pick from the menu of perversions.


9 posted on 05/26/2023 5:01:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it possible that the current Supreme Court will overturn the homosexual marriage decision? They did overturn Roe v Wade but that ruling dated to the 1970s and all the justices that ruled on that matter are no longer with us. The decision that legalized homosexual marriage infringed on states rights just as much as Roe v Wade did.
10 posted on 05/26/2023 5:02:26 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep.

It was pretty clear when the Mormon Church wouldn’t oppose the Boy Scouts pitching their tent toward Sodom that their church had bigger fish to fry.


11 posted on 05/26/2023 5:02:37 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: SeekAndFind

When marriage means everything, marriage means nothing. That has always been the goal.


12 posted on 05/26/2023 5:02:41 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: dsrtsage

Did you consider that you might have five guys tackling one Honey-Do list? Your work would be cut by 80%.


13 posted on 05/26/2023 5:02:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see how polygamy can be stopped, given the drift of the laws and courts.

But government will have to get out of the business of recognizing unions. No tax breaks. No inheritance assumptions. No divorces. No alimonies.

If people want to live together under a roof and say “We’re married!” that’s fine but that’s 100% of the story right there. Anything else is an individual contract action carried out with a lawyer, piece by piece as you make a thousand little decisions in your lives together.

Equal protection under the law just becomes too difficult if personal unions start to take on a whole lot of different shapes.


14 posted on 05/26/2023 5:03:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

At least after sex when I fall asleep she can have someone to talk too. - Rodney Dangerfield


15 posted on 05/26/2023 5:04:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

“My wife loves when I talk dirty to her while having sex. Last night she called from Barbados.”


16 posted on 05/26/2023 5:07:47 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The way I used to explain it during the “gay marriage” days was that gay marriage was the implementation of merely “consenting adults”, which of course means polygamy and anything else would become legal in time, since the true meaning and reason of marriage was ended.


17 posted on 05/26/2023 5:12:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: jeffersondem

They dropped BSA faster than many other churches. So, I don’t know what you are talking about.


18 posted on 05/26/2023 5:15:25 PM PDT by bone52 (Now is the time we dreamed of, and you are the hero you hoped for. Carpe diem!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“I would RATHER have polygamy than all this trans and homo stuff.”

Ditto. Polygamy is a natural outcome of human nature, as is evident from all of history. Polygamous societies are or have been very common.


19 posted on 05/26/2023 5:15:42 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Polygamy at least isn’t a perversion. It’s a sin, but an ordinary one.


20 posted on 05/26/2023 5:17:54 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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