The Legalization Of Polygamy Was Always The Logical Consequence Of Obergefell

The Federalist ^ | 05/26/2023 | Jonathan S. Tobin

[CaptainK]

Homosexuality has been around as long as polygamy.

Women suffer under polygamy. No thanks.

[bankwalker]

Is polygamy a sin?

[MinorityRepublican]

I would RATHER have polygamy than all this trans and homo stuff.

I don't think it makes that much difference because we are heading down that direction anyway. But do you think the law should tolerates guys who have the resources like Bill Gates having a harem of 25 wives? That means all the men will have no wives. This kind of stuff will eventually lead to radicalization. You saw this with the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. That may happen to us.

[jjotto]

To be clear, ‘polygyny’ (multiple wives) societies have been common. ‘Polyandry’ (more than one husband) societies are rare and not successful.

[Dilbert San Diego]

Last year, Congress passed the “Respect For Marriage Act”, which legalized homosexual marriage in federal law.

So if the Court ever did overturn the Obergfell decision, there is now underlying legislation which allows same sex marriage.

[Ann Archy]

LGBTQPEDOGROOMER! Pizzagate was REAL!

[jeffersondem]

“They dropped BSA faster than many other churches. So, I don’t know what you are talking about.”

In the 2013 time frame the Mormons gave support - low key perhaps - but support for the Boy Scouts letting the camel’s nose into the tent.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mormon-church-ok-ending-boy-scouts-ban-gay-youth-flna6C9625708

A couple of years later you can read articles indicating the Mormon Church bowed up but the damage was done then.

[AlaskaErik]

It's just a matter of time before this is a legal marriage.

[Dr. Sivana]

Sorry, you get the whole package. You don’t get to pick from the menu of perversions.

On a natural level, polygamy is not a perversion in the same way that homosexuality, child molestation or trans-anything is. I would not call Solomon a pervert, and Muslims and numerous pagan countries manage to have polygamy without accepting the whole package.

You can be married, think you see your wife die in a horrible accident, thinking she's dead, and marry another. When she in fact she did not die in the accident and it was someone else. It is technically polygamy, but it is not perverted. Cutting off a non-diseased sex organ or putting it where it doesn't belong is a perversion, the perverting of something good. While polygamy is not God's ideal, it is a misuse of a good (marriage), but not a disgusting perversion.

[jjotto]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/31/why-would-a-woman-marry-her-dog

[griswold3]

Ordered Whitney Webb “One Nation Under Blackmail” vol 1&2

[HereInTheHeartland]

“I would RATHER have polygamy than all this trans and homo stuff.”

It’s all sick and demented.
Not much different with any of it.

[Dr. Sivana]

But do you think the law should tolerates guys who have the resources like Bill Gates having a harem of 25 wives? That means all the men will have no wives.

If Gates, or those "reformed" Mormons in Texas have multiple wives in all but a marriage certificate, they can or are doing it now. In a sense, Genghis Khan had thousands of concubines.

Of course I think it is a bad idea. But saying homo "marriages" is bad because it leads to polygamy is like saying LSD is bad because it leads to alcohol abuse.

[sphinx]

Likely today most liberal politicians would say they are opposed to polygamy because it is a vestige of bad ancient patriarchal societies.

Historically, polygamy has been a natural response to very high male mortality in societies characterized by chronic raiding and warfare. Very high mortality among young men produces large numbers of young widows and young unmarried women whose potential mates have been killed. Polygamy gives them a licit and honorable place in society. It also allows the surviving young men to maximize the number of licit children that they father, which is essential for a tribal society to keep its numbers up. Most societies pass through such a stage at some point, and polygamy has been practiced by people of all cultures and races.

Eventually, societies develop beyond that point and the gender imbalance tends to normalize. When that happens, polygamy leads to wealthier, high status men taking multiple wives. Practiced on a large scale, this produces a shortage of marriageable women and large numbers of young men with no chance of a normal family life.

Islam's solution has always been jihad, which is a highly effective way of massacring large numbers of young, mostly lower-class men. For those who survive, taking women captives for sex slavery is a promised reward.

Liberalism's solution will be the encouragement of mass promiscuity, essentially a thinly camouflaged form of normalized prostitution in which young women up to the age of 35-40 will be encouraged to service all comers. This is currently called "sex positivity." The women who provide these services will spend the second half of their lives alone and bitter. I pity their cats.

[buwaya]

It is, in the Catholic Church. One cannot, for instance, marry one wife in a Catholic ceremony, and then another in a civil ceremony, and have relations with both. It is plain adultery.

This is a very common situation btw, granting even a lack of a civil or alternate religious ceremony. Many Catholic societies have always tacitly accepted keeping mistresses. These people are often married in all but name, keeping duplicate households and parallel families.

[buwaya]

“Homosexuality has been around as long as polygamy.”

So has murder, and having relations with sheep.

Homosexuality (and that sheep stuff) is, in the traditional Catholic view, disordered. It’s unnatural. Ordinary adultery is not disordered. It is sinful as it is a violation of a sacrament, but it is the outcome of a very ordinary sort of temptation.

[DesertRhino]

You could marry hot twenty year old twins. Then you’d only have one mother in law. (Just make sure you’re wired for 220)

[Wallace T.]

Assuming that the Supreme Court overruled Obergefell, would the Respect for Marriage Act have any application outside Federal territories, such as the District of Columbia or Guam? I wouldn't think that a Supreme Court that would overturn the homosexual marriage ruling and has restricted Federal and state powers recently would tolerate another Federal overreach.

[MinorityRepublican]

Islam's solution has always been jihad, which is a highly effective way of massacring large numbers of young, mostly lower-class men. For those who survive, taking women captives for sex slavery is a promised reward.

The West will have to do something like this. Or we will set up ourselves nicely for a revolution.

[CaptainK]

Polygamy isn’t “ordinary” adultery.
Endless adultery with multiple women is a disorder.
In other words, sexual gluttony.