Posted on 08/22/2023 2:30:02 PM PDT by Auntie Mame
Just over fifty-five years ago, on June 5, 1968, Senator Robert F. Kennedy was gunned down in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, shortly after triumphing in the California and South Dakota Presidential primaries.
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“Sirhan confessed to the murder,” denoted Kennedy. “He pled guilty. His story is that he has no memory of it, and he stuck with that story for 60 years. But there was a man standing, one of my father’s best friends, standing beside him when my father was shot. And his name is Paul Schrade.”
“And the first shot that Sirhan fired hit Paul in the head,” Kennedy detailed. “Paul survived, and he just died less than a year ago. And he spent the last 20 years of his life trying to get Sirhan out of jail because he did not believe that Sirhan killed my father.”
Kennedy shared that Allard Lowenstein, a former US Congressman (D-NY) and “great friend” of Robert F. Kennedy, also believed the same thing — that Sirhan Sirhan did not kill the Presidential hopeful in 1968. “He fought for many years to get Sirhan out [of prison] and get the case reopened because he did not believe that my father was killed by Sirhan.”
Kennedy previously believed that the 77 eyewitnesses at the Ambassador Hotel shooting must have seen things right — that Sirhan Sirhan killed his father.
“Paul Schrade made me come over to his house one day and read the autopsy report,” recalled Kennedy. “How did he make me? He told me, you have to do this. And because he was such a close friend of my father’s and because he himself had been shot, I felt like I couldn’t say no to him. When I sat down and read the autopsy report, it became clear to me, as it would to anybody who read that report, that Sirhan could not have killed my father, which is what Thomas Noguchi, the coroner, the most important coroner probably in American history also concluded and said in his autobiography.”
Story doesn’t make sense, at all.
First of all, JFK simply wasn’t old enough to have had the same mistress for 27 years.
Even if she did exist, why would she be in a suite with LBJ in 1968?
Are you saying she was a double agent or an LBJ spy?
Just a weird story.
Thanks. That’s exactly what I am interested in and need.
That’s exactly what I’ve always believed...the Mafia had the motive and the means to take out both Kennedys. I’ve also heard stories thru my (also Midwestern) Italian family connections...not third hand, but fourth and fifth hand word of mouth.
I remember seeing photos of that jury. No way you could get a “Guilty” verdict even if he had stabbed her in the courtroom, as it was their way to get back at “Whitey”.
My experience has been that 100% of the people who were certain that O.J. was proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt followed the trial with the evening talking heads. 100% of those who actually watched the trial believe the jury rendered the correct verdict. I watched the trial and the evening talking heads. The prosecution charged O.J., and his lawyers invoked California's speedy trial law. The prosecution was forced to begin the trial while woefully unprepared. The results of DNA testing didn't even come back until well after the trial began. The autopsy doctor was so bad in the preliminary hearing that he was not even called to testify. Dr. "Lucky" testified in his place, based on notes he read. Dr. Rieders provided unimpeached testimony that showed the presence of EDTA preservative in blood samples. The state statistician had to admit, on the stand, that his statistics were incorrect. After direct testimony, Mark Fuhrman was skewered by F. Lee Bailey. It's not often seen that a prosecution witness has to retreat behind the fifth amendment on cross-examination. What Barry Scheck did to detectives and scientific witnesses was cruel and unusual. There were two trials. In the daytime, the only murder victim was the prosecution. At night, the trial events were repeatedly reported as devastating for the defense. Cable news was CNN—the most trusted name in news, then as now.
“OJ did not take the rap. He was acquitted”
He was arrested (after failure to turn himself in) and following the car chase. He was jailed and went to trial... that’s
called taking the rap. He went to court and was acquitted.
His son was never investigated and from what I’ve read never tested for DNA either.
RAP = Record of Arrests and Prosecutions
I have to admit, I believe OJ killed them. BUT, there were several things that gave me reasonable doubt. From testimony and evidence I truly believe the cops played with the blood to enhance their case. I also think the glove was a throw down. In addition, the pilot who asked to see his Super Bowl ring on his trip from LA to NY and the photographer who sat beside him both testified, definitively, there was no cut on his hand. I am not sure I would have been able to convict him. The cops and prosecution lost this case.
They both intended to but seem to have been pawns set up to take the blame for what the professionals actually did.
Since it seems nobody here actually read the article, here is the important part:
““The real shooter was behind my father,” claimed Kennedy.
“That man is Thane Eugene Cesar.” Cesar “was a security guard who worked for Lockheed [Martin]. He was a CIA operative. He was a vocal, vocal racist who hated the Kennedys. And he had been the one who led my father through the kitchen toward the ambush.”
Thane Eugene Cesar: Images via dailymail.co.uk
“He was holding my father’s arm. He drew his gun. And my father was shot four times from behind. One of the shots passed harmlessly through the shoulder pad of his coat. The other two were into his back and then one behind his ear, which was the fatal shot. And all of the shots had an uphill trajectory. And all of them, and this is what the autopsy found, were contact shots,” reported Kennedy. “So, the barrel of the gun was touching my father’s body or his clothing. And the discharge left carbon tattoos … on his flesh.”
The basis for Kennedy’s claims came from “The Perfect Autopsy.”
More:
“When I sat down and read the autopsy report, it became clear to me, as it would to anybody who read that report, that Sirhan could not have killed my father.”
“When I was older, I researched it [JFK’s assassination]. Somebody gave me a book called JFK and the Unspeakable, and I read it. And the story made sense,” told Kennedy.
“But I still believed that my father had been killed by Sirhan Sirhan.”
“Sirhan confessed to the murder,” denoted Kennedy. “He pled guilty. His story is that he has no memory of it, and he stuck with that story for 60 years. But there was a man standing, one of my father’s best friends, standing beside him when my father was shot. And his name is Paul Schrade.”
Paul Schrade: Image via Wikipedia
RFK Jr. told Bill Maher that Paul Schrade, who was the Deputy Director of the United Auto Workers, introduced his father to Cesar Chavez, which was “one of the most important relationships” his father ever had.
Cesar Chavez: Image via history.com
“And the first shot that Sirhan fired hit Paul in the head,” Kennedy detailed. “Paul survived, and he just died less than a year ago. And he spent the last 20 years of his life trying to get Sirhan out of jail because he did not believe that Sirhan killed my father.”
Kennedy shared that Allard Lowenstein, a former US Congressman (D-NY) and “great friend” of Robert F. Kennedy, also believed the same thing — that Sirhan Sirhan did not kill the Presidential hopeful in 1968. “He fought for many years to get Sirhan out [of prison] and get the case reopened because he did not believe that my father was killed by Sirhan.”
“Paul Schrade made me come over to his house one day and read the autopsy report,” recalled Kennedy. “How did he make me? He told me, you have to do this. And because he was such a close friend of my father’s and because he himself had been shot, I felt like I couldn’t say no to him. When I sat down and read the autopsy report, it became clear to me, as it would to anybody who read that report, that Sirhan could not have killed my father, which is what Thomas Noguchi, the coroner, the most important coroner probably in American history also concluded and said in his autobiography.”
“Sirhan fired two shots at my father. He was 5ft away. There was absolute mayhem in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel. My father just won the primary. He said, from the stage, ‘And now it’s onto Chicago,’ which is where the convention was. Then he walks off the stage, and he went into a route that was not expected.”
Kennedy continued. “He [my father] was led into a route through the kitchen, which he was not supposed to go to, and waiting in the kitchen in an ambush was Siran Siran standing in front of a steam table. And as my father approached the steam table, Sirhan fired at him two shots. One of those hit Paul Schrade. The other one went past my father’s ear and hit a door jam behind my father, a wooden door jam from which it was later removed by the LAPD. Sirhan was then grabbed by six men in a dog pile, and he was backed onto the steam table.”
Kennedy shared that Rafer Johnson, a “great friend” of Kennedy’s father and 1960 Olympic gold medalist in the decathlon, was one of the people who tried to grab Sirhan’s gun.
Rafer Johnson: Image via Wikipedia
“He was one of the people who grabbed it [the gun], and he was the one who actually grabbed his hand.” Rafer told Kennedy Sirhan Sirhan was “The tiniest, tiniest little guy” but tough as nails — going as far as to say Sirhan “had superhuman strength.” “He [Rafer] could not get that gun out of his [Sirhan’s] hand,” continued Kennedy. “And Sirhan now was pointing the gun away from my father and fired six more shots.”
“So there’s eight shots in the barrel,” Kennedy summarized. “He [Sirhan] fired six [shots] in the opposite direction from where my father was. All of those shots hit people. So we know who they hit. We know what happened to all of those bullets. One person got shot twice.” But his father, Robert F. Kennedy, “was shot four times from behind.”
“So it’s the same scenario as [Lee Harvey] Oswald,” interjected Bill Maher. “A patsy and a real shooter.” “Right,” agreed Kennedy. “So, he was a distractor.”
Lee Harvey Oswald: Imagine via history.com
“The real shooter was behind my father,” claimed Kennedy.
“That man is Thane Eugene Cesar.” Cesar “was a security guard who worked for Lockheed [Martin]. He was a CIA operative. He was a vocal, vocal racist who hated the Kennedys. And he had been the one who led my father through the kitchen toward the ambush.”
Thane Eugene Cesar: Images via dailymail.co.uk
“He was holding my father’s arm. He drew his gun. And my father was shot four times from behind. One of the shots passed harmlessly through the shoulder pad of his coat. The other two were into his back and then one behind his ear, which was the fatal shot. And all of the shots had an uphill trajectory. And all of them, and this is what the autopsy found, were contact shots,” reported Kennedy. “So, the barrel of the gun was touching my father’s body or his clothing. And the discharge left carbon tattoos … on his flesh.”
The basis for Kennedy’s claims came from “The Perfect Autopsy.”
Link to the autopsy report.
“Thomas Noguchi, who knew what had happened in President Kennedy’s autopsy, which was loaded with scandal, did not want the same thing to happen in LA. And he said, ‘We’re not going to do Dallas again.’ So he flew in the top coroners from all of the armed services, the army, air force, navy, [and] marines to observe what he was doing. And his autopsy is called ‘The perfect autopsy’ in the medical literature. And he concluded that the shots had come from behind. And there were 77 eyewitnesses who saw that Sirhan was never behind my father. He was always in front of him — always about 5 feet away.”
Kennedy also argued that his father “must have known he was being shot from behind.”
“As my father fell, he must have known he was being shot from behind because he turned around and grabbed off Cesar’s clip-on tie. And you can see pictures of him lying on the floor. And he’s actually lying on top of Cesar with the clip-on tie in his hand. And there’s pictures of Cesar without his tie on.”
Robert F. Kennedy the night he was shot. Image: @Popperfoto via Getty Images.
Kennedy continued. “Cesar pushed my father off him and stood up. He was knocked down when my father fell onto him. He stood up and was seen with his gun. The police did not confiscate the gun that night. And they asked him what he was doing. And he said he drew the gun to shoot at Sirhan.”
And this is all just “the beginning of the story,” remarked Kennedy.
“Cesar made a series of changing, deceptive, lying statements after that in the different times he was questioned over many, many years. I cannot tell you what happened. I can speculate about it. But I can tell you that I cannot see any way that anybody can read that autopsy report and believe that Sirhan killed my father,” concluded Kennedy.
“And that’s my point,” he stated. “It [the case] ought to be investigated.”
My opinion is that RFK Jr got it wrong once again. Lee Oswald killed his uncle, Sirhan Sirhan killed his father, the climate change crisis is a fraud, and we should continue backing Ukraine’s independence. The only thing RFK Jr is correct about is vaccines.
You get a gold star!
“Lyndon Johnson”
My High School history teacher was the daughter of the Sheriff who was best friends of LBJ. She had interesting tales to tell, like the poaching on horseback.
Paul Schrade? I don’t know anything about him. Paul Schrader made a classic film about a would-be assassin: Taxi Driver.
I don’t know what to say about the rest of this. Is it weird that we are only hearing about this now? Why did Sirhan confess? Why did the Kennedys hire an avowed racist to work security?
RAP = Record of Arrests and Prosecutions
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/take--the--rap
take the rapTo be punished or blamed, especially when innocent: “The crime boss arranged it so that his underling took the rap for the insurance scam.”
Black's Law Dictionary, 11th ed.
Rap. Slang for criminal conviction.
How did RFK Jr. forget about Rosey Grier wrestling the gun from Sirhan Sirhan??
At the civil trial, much was made of the Bruno Magli shoes. It later came to light that Bruno Magli was a designer and not a manufacturer. The soles were made by Silga Gomma and the manufacturer sold them to twenty companies. That sort of destroys the shoeprints as evidence of O.J.'s presence at the crime scene.
There is a rumor that Aristotle Onasis was behind the shooting. Bobby was telling Jackie not to marry Onasis, perhaps threatening her if she did.
>>That said, I guess there could have been a second shooter, but Sirhan Sirhan definitely was a shooter and was captured with a gun in his hand.
Cops later took the passageway door and ceiling panels, all with bullet holes in them so no one could tally the number of shots fired. The post above naming a security cop leading RFK through the passage way is a very likely suspect. And there are questions about Sirhan Sirhan being a “Manchurian candidate”.
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