Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash

BBC ^ | 08/23/23 | By Frank Gardner, security correspondent, & Robert Greenall

[Dat]

This is everywhere on FR now. There is a contingent that is trying to convince us that Russia is the richest, most powerful, most moral country on Earth. I don’t know what is going on here. I think it is a combination of Russian intelligence operations with people who are looking to find a mythical conservative paradise. It gets very annoying when people throw out even the vaguest semblance of reasonableness.

[Williams]

I got tired of pointing out some of the craziest things they say. Many times they don’t deny it.
A few are so active and have such a strident agenda every single day that I believe they’re up to something.
Most of them I think are just conservatives who have gone over the deep end because they hate Biden and what is happening in America so much.
I share their hate of Biden but that’s no excuse for some of the idiotic things they say.
For example they don’t just say we cannot compare ourselves favorably with other advanced countries, they say we cannot favorably compare ourselves with any country on Earth For example they don’t just say we cannot compare ourselves favorably with other advanced countries, they say we cannot favorably compare ourselves with any country on Earth.

So that would include Uganda, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Libya, just to name a few.

[Dogbert41]

“On the day when Russia blasts one of its mercenaries out of the sky, we have people who are so eager to favorably compare Russia with the United States, or that we’re no better.

No sale.”

I don’t say we are no better. I actually said nobody knows who did the deed yet, and I believe I implied we were on a scale MANY TIMES WORSE. Just with covid alone, we’ve murdered MILLIONS.

[Dogbert41]

“No Russia isn’t equal to the United States by any measure.

None.

Economy
Military
Culture
Freedom
Food
Population

I could go on.

If you think Russia is equal or superior or interchangeable with the USA, take a stroll over there and have fun.

Start by posting shit about Russia like you do here about America, and see how that works out.”

Oh, I know how it’s going to work out for me here at home. I’m on the enemy’s list for sure, just for what they’ve got on me here on FR. We are a banana republic for sure. Maybe it’ll take one more fraudulent stolen election to let it sink in.

As for your list, I can hear people’s drinks getting spit out on their screens as they read it.

[Williams]

You’re delusional and I really suggest you go to Russia since you think it’s better in all those ways.

[Texan4Life]

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230824-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-russia-and-ukraine-trade-drone-attacks

9:13pm: Pentagon dismisses missile strike theory for Prigozhin plane crash

The US Department of Defence said Thursday there was currently no information to suggest that a surface-to-air missile took down the plane presumed to be carrying Russian mercenary leader Prigozhin.

Brigadier General Patrick Ryder, a Pentagon spokesman, offered no further details or evidence as he made his remarks at a Pentagon news conference.

Reuters had reported earlier on Thursday that the United States was looking at a number of theories over what caused Prigozhin’s plane to crash, and cited two US officials saying a surface-to-air missile likely hit it.