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Italy grants citizenship to baby in Britain to prevent weaning off life support
Reuters ^ | 11/6/2023 | Reuters

Posted on 11/06/2023 6:13:03 PM PST by Nextrush

Rome, Nov. 6 (Reuters)-The Italian government on Monday granted citizenship to a critically ill baby girl from Britain, in a move aimed at preventing doctors from weaning her off life support and allowing her to be moved to Italy.

Eight-month old Indi Gregory suffers from a rare mitochondrial disease, which means that her cells do not produce enough energy. A hospital in Nottingham, central England, says there is no point in continuing treatment.

England's High Court agreed, ruling last month it was in the baby's "best interests" to be taken off of life support, and refusing last week a request from her parents to be allowed to take her to the Vatican's children's hospital in Rome.

Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's government stepped into the controversy by holding an emergency cabinet meeting on Monday which made Gregory an Italian citizen...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Ukraine; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: giorgiameloni; indigregory; italy; prolife
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Italy giving a British family a ray of hope their child will not be put to death by the National Health Service.

The High Court will consider the matter tomorrow I am not optimistic.

I have seen numerous cases like this in the UK in the last six year and I am sick of the UK government.

This is the latest case of the UK government putting sick children to death.

The British government so hellbent for killing in Ukraine as well.

1 posted on 11/06/2023 6:13:03 PM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

If the child’s disease is always fatal, and it appears so, perhaps it would be better to allow her to peacefully pass.


2 posted on 11/06/2023 6:17:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Nextrush

Has the POS fake pope chimed in against this yet?


3 posted on 11/06/2023 6:17:51 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I can’t argue that however, the bloodlust displayed by some national “healthcare” systems shows their over eagerness to kill off anyone they deem dispensable.

too often they seem more interested in just eliminating those with health issues instead of finding a treatment or cure for them.


4 posted on 11/06/2023 6:22:57 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Nextrush
Depending on the exact mitochondrial disorder, it's probably true that there's just no hope for this child.

But dammit, it's just so f***ing wrong for a living, breathing human being to die from starvation or dehydration after some cold-blooded "doctor" (first do no harm..?) yanks the plug on the orders of some unaccountable committee somewhere.

The UK, as a de-facto socialist state, has decided this child's life has no value to the State, and thus should be terminated. But even from the most darkly inhuman point of view, there is so much to be learned medically- for the sake of all humanity- to fight to keep such people alive. And from any principled point of view, it's just wrong to terminate a child for convenience or finance' sake.

I am not a particularly religious person, but abortion offends me incredibly deeply- it relies on the notion that a human being has no inherent value, only value to others, who can choose to deny that value and deny a fellow person his or her life...

...And this is so much worse. It's the State who gets to deny a person their inherent value of life?! This is the first step to quite literally disposing of "undesirables." We all KNOW where that path leads.

Terminally sick children are a recognizable, definable demographic group. And yet the UK thinks it can declare such a group worthy of death. What group will they declare undesirable and worthy of extermination next? We've seen this repeatedly through human history. The end result is death. Death, death, death, and no progress (in the sense of the deceptive leftist term "Progressive") to show for it.

The most anti-human people on the planet call themselves "humanists"...
5 posted on 11/06/2023 6:27:44 PM PST by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: HYPOCRACY

At least Giorgia Meloni the Prime Minister of Italy was for helping this child.


6 posted on 11/06/2023 6:32:14 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: metmom

The unfortunate consequence of making health care “free” is that it must be rationed. There simply isn’t enough money to pay for everything for everyone forever.


7 posted on 11/06/2023 6:32:17 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: verum ago

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4194995/posts?page=7#7


8 posted on 11/06/2023 6:33:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The parents want their child to live and have hope I will go with them the next POTUS will have to deal with the British government I saw Mike Pence limp when another child was put to death by the UK.

President Trump seemed a bit more interested than Pence.

If I were POTUS it would be Suez Crisis and beyond for the British government until they change their minds about such matters.


9 posted on 11/06/2023 6:34:33 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You make a valid point but I see something amoral if not immoral about these cases.


10 posted on 11/06/2023 6:36:08 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

It’s basically triage in non-emergency cases. You save those you can and you allow those who cannot be saved to pass. It sounds cold but every triage nurse in wartime and mass casualty cases has done it.


11 posted on 11/06/2023 6:44:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m not watching an episode of “M*A*S*H” more disrespect for humanity made in the image of G-d.

But it’s the teched up world we are entering.


12 posted on 11/06/2023 6:47:32 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: verum ago

I got news for the UK government. We are ALL TERMINAL! So end your lives the same time you end the life of the baby.


13 posted on 11/06/2023 6:49:05 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Nextrush
Giorgia Meloni is the real deal!

14 posted on 11/06/2023 8:13:05 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I give her the thumbs up for this good move she ain’t no Mike Pence.


15 posted on 11/06/2023 8:25:53 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: metmom
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16 posted on 11/07/2023 5:40:41 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Nextrush
Given my ancestry I've done a lot of research on "dual citizenship". Some countries...including the US,Canada,Ireland,the UK and Italy...allow it. Some don't...South Korea being one.

Countries that allow it have a policy of rejecting any foreign government's interference when they're dealing with one of their own citizens.

IOW...assuming that this child is a citizen of the UK and is now hospitalized in the UK officials there will not allow Italy to interfere in any way.

Yes,Italy's action was very commendable but it won't help the child at all.

17 posted on 11/07/2023 6:09:11 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

It was parent’s persistence that helped identify and recognize Lyme Disease.

The medical community is not interested in actually trying to really treat or cure difficult cases.

Aside from this situation, my experience with an unusual health condition has also been the same. Nobody wants to do anything about it.


18 posted on 11/07/2023 6:38:28 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If the child’s disease is always fatal, and it appears so, perhaps it would be better to allow her to peacefully pass.

I've read of a couple of these cases where an innovative treatment was offered by the U.S. or another European country, but the UK courts ordered the child to remain in the custody of their socialist NHS hospitals that had no further options to try; their "death panels" didn't want the expense.

One boy even had a million dollars of funding committed by Americans in order to come here and at least try to be treated, but UK courts made him die.

While it may be true that some of these attempts may be futile, it's also true that conscientious attempts at treatment contribute to greater understanding of diseases for the help of future patients.

19 posted on 11/07/2023 9:45:58 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: metmom; little jeremiah
Good parents advocate for their children. These parents were looking for something that would allow him to have life and Italy and the Vatican hospital were willing to provide that chance. (Here it would be St. Jude or Mayo Clinic?)

There are some research doctors that will address or try to treat rare diseases. Example:

Dr. Huda Zoghbi, pioneering neurologist at Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children’s Hospital

She has done a lot of work on Rett syndrome, a disorder that affects girls and Women.

20 posted on 11/07/2023 6:27:15 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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