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US special operations forces are searching for a new extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight as Ukraine shows the damage that snipers can do
Business Insider ^ | 1/28/2024 | Stavros Atlamazoglou

Posted on 01/28/2024 6:23:20 PM PST by logi_cal869

Ask any soldier, and they'll tell you that there are fewer scarier things on a battlefield than an enemy sniper. The combination of the unknown with the actual danger elevates snipers to some of the most hated figures in warfare.

But snipers are force multipliers, more so when it comes to special operations. Army Rangers, Navy SEALs, Marine Raiders, and Green Berets fight in small numbers, and the snipers within their ranks play a key role. In a team of 12-16 commandos, many will be sniper-qualified, thus maximizing the firepower of the group.

US special operations forces are now looking for a new, extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight, a possible high-intensity conflict, as the war in Ukraine has shown the damage that snipers can do, the impact they can have on the battlefield.

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To: bimboeruption

You said the Cu Chi Tunnels, completely different.


61 posted on 01/28/2024 8:12:28 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: qaz123

Is that because Marines wouldn’t open fire on US Citizens, but graduates of whatever program they’re transferring sniper responsibility to would?


62 posted on 01/28/2024 8:20:25 PM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: coloradan

No, the school comes and goes, the military does that sort of thing.


63 posted on 01/28/2024 8:35:16 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: for-q-clinton
"Sniper could easily shoot down a drone."

If they can see it.

64 posted on 01/28/2024 8:37:04 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: ckilmer

You can spoof drones, or render them ineffective or destroy them in multiple ways. With a determined and effective sniper, you have to kill him to stop him, and that’s nowhere near as easy as disabling or spoofing a drone.


65 posted on 01/28/2024 8:40:28 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SharpenedEdge; Celtic Conservative

“309? A piker compared with 542. With iron sights.”
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Plus about 200 more with a submachine gun. The guy had big brass ones and amazing skill - no one better in my book…and the tough SOB lived to 96, despite a horrible wound to his face during the war.


66 posted on 01/28/2024 8:47:41 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr

Still probably 309 more than you or I have.

CC


67 posted on 01/28/2024 9:12:44 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Disambiguator
I understand that 16 inch guns have a pretty long range.

I wish Congress would order the USS New Jersey to a higher level of readiness in the reserve fleet. In fact, the USN has ignored Congress in retaining its capabilities.

68 posted on 01/28/2024 9:22:29 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: Levy78

Very true. Gunny Hathcock was legit.

What’s odd, is the article itself. Those folks and that craft are constantly looking for, researching and developing the next thing all the time. They have entire sections devoted to that.

That’s how they developed the 6.8rnd.

And so much of the newer calibers, etc come from the civilian side with all the “gun nerds”(God bless ‘em) tinkering all day and night.


69 posted on 01/28/2024 9:28:06 PM PST by qaz123
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To: ckilmer

Ukraine is showing that extreme long range sniping is more cost effective than drones in terms of antipersonnel. The drones are great against vehicles and fortifications. Different tools for different missions.

The Ukrainians are claiming a sniper kill at 12468 feet, or about two and a half miles. Additionally, you cannot jam a sniper or find them with a radio direction finder, two things that you can do with a drone. You can also find the drone operator and send him your greetings all electronically - the drone operators on both sides are now locating each other through ELINT and sending drones to kill their opposite numbers.


70 posted on 01/28/2024 9:33:55 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: logi_cal869

I think the Army just got rid of a sniper designation. Guess the new GI Janes can take care of that need using pink kungfu techniques.


71 posted on 01/28/2024 9:34:40 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (away.)
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To: oldasrocks

Not a simple one, but jamming is a thing, yes. You can jam the video link, the control link, or both.


72 posted on 01/28/2024 9:37:28 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: coloradan

I don’t think so. At least I hope not.

But that goes with any military unit or law enforcement agency these days.

It’s amazing who they recruit, how blindly they follow orders and how corrupt some have shown themselves to be.

I was in law enforcement for years. It’s troubling to see how easily they’ll trample the Constitution.


73 posted on 01/28/2024 9:37:56 PM PST by qaz123
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To: logi_cal869

In WW2 they built anti-tanks to kill other tanks. Have they built anti-drones yet?


74 posted on 01/28/2024 10:24:18 PM PST by ghost.of.patton (Hollywood is a pedo factory. It's not the scene of a crime, it's their business model.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Definitely.


75 posted on 01/28/2024 10:44:34 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Woody Guthrie tribute song to Lyudmila:

https://youtu.be/SHKjOl9ocR0?si=y5JHXWY82odN2mio


76 posted on 01/28/2024 11:19:10 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Disambiguator

No only long range but extreme accuracy as well. Problem is we have no one to produce the required granularity of black powder.


77 posted on 01/29/2024 12:30:23 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: logi_cal869
Elephant gun.


78 posted on 01/29/2024 12:33:19 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: logi_cal869

I think ultimately the answer will be more drones and UGV’s and fewer humans on the battlefield. Humans are far more vulnerable and valuable.

As one of the German generals said toward the end of WWII “ultimately, the only resource that is not renewable is human blood”.


79 posted on 01/29/2024 3:42:27 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: logi_cal869

I’m surprised Democrats haven’t banned “assault weapons” and other guns from the Military.


80 posted on 01/29/2024 5:11:08 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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