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This major US city wants to ban new gas stations (unless also build concurrent matching new electric pumps + one to one match)
electrek.co ^ | Feb 15 2024 - 2:52 am PT | Jennifer Mossalgue

Posted on 02/16/2024 7:12:37 PM PST by cba123

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To: dragnet2

Another problem they may not have thought about is...the more EVs & the more charging stations may just exacerbate problems we are already encountering; more & even more crowding around charging stations plus the possible fire problems with EVs we already have. Just imagine what would happen in a crowding situation involving EVs what only ONE unintentional fire might mean. No thanks, I will pass; not rich enough to afford an EV anyway....and sure as heck don’t want one.


41 posted on 02/17/2024 7:00:30 AM PST by oldtech
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Where are they going to get the power from?….rats running on treadmills?


42 posted on 02/17/2024 7:03:54 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: cba123

The nearest EV station is 30 miles from here. And yet four new gas stations are going in within ten miles of here. Obviously not everyone has taken the EV bait.


43 posted on 02/17/2024 8:32:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yldstrk
Oh yeah, sounds like something Sacramento would do.

Sacramento legislators are idiots. Let the free economy decide, not idiots in government.

Elon Musk and Tesla have the right ideas, and are profiting from them. Tesla has been building charging stations with many dozens of electric pumps, at or near malls. Two malls within a couple miles of me, each have between 40 to 50 pumps. While the cars charge, the customers shop or eat at the mall. Additionally, Tesla is building a super-charger site in Southern California with restaurants and stores, all owned by Tesla. No government involved.

You can't mandate stuff at gas stations, a sure way to destroy them. But maybe that is what government intends.

44 posted on 02/17/2024 12:48:57 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You are the outlier, most of the population lives in urban areas by a break three to one ratio vs rural. Including the suburbs that tips farther to the urban areas. The issue is a lot of people live in apartments so they would need access to HVDC chargers once a week or so. Most urbanites drive 40 miles or less per day and under 13000 total for a year including road trips. Suburbanites have garages which can be wired with dryer sized plugs mine has two of them one in each wall with 80 amp breakers and we are a new build so 300 amp service is code minimums for new builds here now you can get 400 amp service too. I rent model 3 and model S teslas fairly regularly for the FSD tech these cars drive themselves on the motorways and in bumper to bumper Houston grid lock. Texas us blanketed with super chargers I have never spent more than 20 min at a supercharger to get back to 75%+ SOC enough to get to my hotel with a reserved spot and a L2 charger or better. Austin is nonstop ,Houston is one stop at 20 min or less. New Orleans is two stops in a Model 3 or one in the S. Either way my.bladder has less range than the tesla from stop to stop. Teslas are also cheaper by the day than nearly every other hertz car especially if you have an LLC and get corp rates. My next commuter car is a Model 3 with FSD a AWD LR with the LFP cells that cannot blow up the chemistry is wrong. Tesla uses the same cells as BYD blade packs and BYD punches a steel spike through the blade pack and it just sits there no fire nothing impressive happens at all. LFP are the future the energy density is still too low for long range EV where people.demand 400 miles range. I’ll take 325mi all day with 150kw HVDC it takes 15min to add 200 miles and three hours of drive time again more than the bladder will take. EVs have a place in the urban areas and if there is a dense supercharger network they work out well. I have never felt range anxiety in Texas our highways are blanketed every 25 to 50 miles with a HVDC spot the car will self guide to one of it gets low. For the one or two trips per year over 600 miles I’ll rent a large SUV with unlimited miles and pack it full of hunting and fishing gear plus tow my boat with it on someone’s depreciation schedule.


45 posted on 02/19/2024 7:33:56 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: frank ballenger

You will be happy to know that household fixtures designed to handle incandescent bulbs up to a maximum of 60 Watts operate extremely happily when fitted with LED bulbs designed to deliver “100W Equivalent” illumination.

So, you can actually get MORE light out of your old fixtures without exceeding their electrical design limits. Also, if the internal dimensions of the fixtures permit, you can go to the larger-sized A21 and get 150W equivalent units, or even go up to A23 size and get 200W equivalent units.

JUST BE CERTAIN you get 2700K bulbs or you won’t get the pleasurable glow of “warm white” light those old incandescent bulbs gave off.

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As a last comment, I might consider going as high as 3000K in a Kitchen or Garage/Workshop, but any higher than that and the light gets into an unpleasantly piercing blue-white hue.


46 posted on 04/04/2024 3:25:28 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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Thanks for the detailed information. Much appreciated.

Enlightening. (😇)


47 posted on 04/04/2024 4:41:54 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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