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So, a Pier for Hamas it is...
CDR Salamander ^ | 11 Mar 2024 | CDR Salamander

Posted on 03/12/2024 7:56:15 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

A lot of people spent the weekend scratching their heads over this;

It will take a few weeks to make the transit from Virginia to the eastern Mediterranean. The 37-year old Besson can’t even break 12-knots fully loaded.

…and yes my friends - the Army has its own navy.

I feel real sorry for the Operational Planners.

In an area thick with poorly controlled hostile forces with everything from snipers to ATGM, how do you work this force protection problem?

What are your ROE if you take fire? What if you are confronted with a wave of people wanting refuge on the ship? What if ship’s company goes missing ashore?

This is at the far end of the Mediterranean…in spring. Storm season is past, so hopefully the weather will cooperate.

I almost made this post about what a bad idea this was, but the die is cast and all we can do now is trust that those tasked with planning will do the best they can with what they’ve been provided, and those who have to execute the mission are both good and lucky. Such activities, from Lebanon to Libya, do not turn out all that well in this part of the world. A lot can and will happen in the weeks it will take to get there, so perhaps fate will help.

(Excerpt) Read more at legalinsurrection.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; navy; port
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“I don’t know a single maritime professional who thinks this is a good idea given the location and conditions ashore, but orders are orders.”

Lots of helpful graphics in the article.

1 posted on 03/12/2024 7:56:15 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Pier Delecto? (Yep, I know, not spelled the same)


2 posted on 03/12/2024 7:59:29 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Be a shame if that pier somehow exploded the minute it was finished...


3 posted on 03/12/2024 8:01:28 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Next it will be floating resteraunts for alaskans on the Remote Bering seas in mid winter

https://www.cruisehive.com/roughest-seas-in-the-world/123268#h-2-the-remote-bering-sea


4 posted on 03/12/2024 8:04:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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You just know that a HAMAS a-hole with an AK-47 will not pass up the chance to kill some Americans...................


5 posted on 03/12/2024 8:04:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: EinNYC

As of 2020 Pier One Imports closed its last brick and mortar store and sold rights to an online place.

Otherwise it could have made a lucrative deal to pay for part of the pier over there as a publicity vehicle.


6 posted on 03/12/2024 8:07:15 AM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Red Badger

“You just know that a HAMAS a-hole with an AK-47 will not pass up the chance to kill some Americans...................”

Just more collateral damage to the OBiden regime. And another symbolic index finger thrown by them to Israel in pacification to anti-Israel and anti-America terrorists everywhere.


7 posted on 03/12/2024 8:14:43 AM PDT by Danie_2023 (n)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

It’s a fiasco that puts Americans in harm’s way based on a faulty assumption that Hamas will be restrained from attacking them out of gratitude. We must learn not to ascribe our values to jihadist terrorists-they don’t think the way we do. Not even close.


8 posted on 03/12/2024 8:18:31 AM PDT by Spok
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...a HAMAS a-hole with an AK-47...

My mind has already escalated the action from there, into much bigger nightmare scenarios.

How manuy ships have the Russians lost in the Black Sea? Does anyone think a 37-year-old CB ship has a chance against a drone attack? Hamas will do it in a New York minute, if they can blame it on Israel. Can you say "Gulf of Tonkin"?

Another mightmare: Israeli Naval blockade of port. You know this will happen. Who will try to run the blockade? And what happens when they do?

Nightmare #3: IDF assault on port from overland, seizing control of all port operations. Will USA be forced to defend the port they just built? I know Biden said no boots on the ground ... you don't think he was lying, do you?

9 posted on 03/12/2024 8:34:42 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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“no boots on the ground”

Then who is going to build and operate this pier? This doesn’t make sense.


10 posted on 03/12/2024 8:53:44 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Well, what if we are taking a page from the Chinese book, where every shipping crane is “wired for sound”?

If every piece of pier and associated equipment has a secret communication device, won’t the CIA and Mossad have a field day?

It might not be true, but if we talk it up enough, Hamas will blow it up themselves.


11 posted on 03/12/2024 8:58:29 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Will the Blessen have to drop anchor at the construction site? If so it will be an irresistible target, like a cherry on top of a sundae.
12 posted on 03/12/2024 8:58:32 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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“..What if you are confronted with a wave of people wanting refuge on the ship? ..”

- brings to mind the airport in Kabul. People flooding the area were falling off the wings and wheel wells of transport aircraft after they were high in the air.


13 posted on 03/12/2024 9:03:55 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

It would be simpler and faster to throw plastic bags filled with loaves of bread into the water offshore of Gaza and let Gazans with boats retrieve them.


14 posted on 03/12/2024 9:04:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The pier, as reported by Jerusalem Post, was a Netanyahu suggestion. Once it’s operating, it would be against international law to prevent it being used to help civilians escaping a war zone. Neither the US nor international agencies would stop civilians fleeing. It’s a kind of rope-a-dope project.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/386567


15 posted on 03/12/2024 9:04:59 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

We have fishing piers in Florida.

The two nearest ones to me are made from large rocks.

Gaza has a lot of rubble. Let Gazans make good use of it.


16 posted on 03/12/2024 9:07:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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So it’s going to take two months for the ship to travel to Gaza. Then it’s going to take weeks to build the pier. Why bother? Does Biden think the Israeli’s are going to wait for the pier to be build before continuing operations?


17 posted on 03/12/2024 9:14:58 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: jjotto

Gazans have been filed with hate since about the age of five.

One shouldn’t put ‘endangered’ wolves [hate-filled Gazans] in the same enclosure [USA] as sheep [Jews].

Many Jews (and my mother’s parents) came here for asylum. The asylum previously granted should be respected. “Newcomers” in need of (or claiming to want) asylum should be directed to seek it in a country where they will not threaten others.


18 posted on 03/12/2024 9:16:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DugwayDuke

“Why bother?”

Michigan Muslim votes


19 posted on 03/12/2024 9:24:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Link not working


20 posted on 03/12/2024 9:28:58 AM PDT by Pythion.net
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