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Russia links concert shooting to 'Ukrainian nationalists'; US says 'nonsense'
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | March 28th, 2024 | Unattributed

Posted on 03/28/2024 2:14:42 PM PDT by Mariner

MOSCOW/WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Russian investigators said on Thursday they had found proof that gunmen who killed more than 140 people at a concert last week were linked to "Ukrainian nationalists", an assertion immediately dismissed by the United States as baseless propaganda.

Russia has said from the outset that it believes Ukraine was linked to the attack, even though Kyiv has denied it and the militant group Islamic State has claimed responsibility.

In a statement, Russia's Investigative Committee said for the first time that it had uncovered proof of a Ukrainian connection. While it described the nature of the alleged evidence, it did not publish it.

"As a result of working with detained terrorists, studying the technical devices seized from them, and analysing information about financial transactions, evidence was obtained of their connection with Ukrainian nationalists," it said.

It said there was "confirmed data" that the attackers had received significant amounts of cash and cryptocurrency from Ukraine. Another suspect involved in "the terrorists' financing scheme" had been detained, the committee said.

White House national security spokesperson John Kirby described the Russian allegations as "nonsense and propaganda" and said Islamic State was solely responsible for the attack.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anotherrussianlie; desperate; putinsblunder; russianlies
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To: Eagles6

They have no reason to take out Biden or America, because Biden is doing their bidding so they don’t have to. In addition Biden is even allowing China to flood this nation with military personnel to pre-position them when this nation falls.


41 posted on 03/28/2024 5:08:00 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Not so sure, but, you have a valid point.
If we roll over and show our belly, as soeroro wanted, that may be enough.


42 posted on 03/28/2024 5:11:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Mariner

Why is our government calling it “baseless”? Isn’t that up to the Ukrainian government to do?

It may indeed be baseless, I don’t trust the Russians to tell the truth. But how do we have the authority to make the claim on behalf of a foreign country? If some secret radical group of rebels, here or there or anywhere, plans something horrible - how does any government have any control over it or the credibility to deny anything about its origin?


43 posted on 03/28/2024 5:11:53 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: jimwatx

“No way does Putin allow this to go unanswered.”

Putin should go to war against Ukraine. Right away. Like ten years ago!


44 posted on 03/28/2024 5:16:36 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Wallace T.
... the wrecking of the Key Bridge in Baltimore was a retaliatory strike by the Russians?

Not likely, the ship involved had similar main power failures and shoddy repairs, in European port a couple of months before the Key Bridge collision.

Crocus hadn't happened at that time.

45 posted on 03/28/2024 5:25:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Eagles6

Corollary: those countries will do their darndest to interfere in our elections, so that PedoJoe and Klamydia are re-elected, and their successors for the rest of the century are weak globalist RATS.


46 posted on 03/28/2024 5:28:21 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: canuck_conservative
Regardless of the merits of the accusations of ISIS being in cahoots with Ukraine (which are very wacky), the accused Ukraine nationalists are poor examples of "Christian Crusaders".

If anything, the Banderite groups worship Wotan and his coterie in Valhalla. Other nationalist groups in Z's government are purely cynical in their use of "Christianity" (shutting down churches they don't like, expropriating monasteries, etc.)

The Teutonic Knights would be embarrassed of Z's inept conduct of this war.

47 posted on 03/28/2024 5:36:05 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: rfp1234

Oh, guaranteed


48 posted on 03/28/2024 5:45:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Navy Patriot

According to Occam’s Razor, you are probably right. The ship has had a string of problems going back to 2016.


49 posted on 03/28/2024 6:18:16 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Eagles6
First of all define who we is, then you can tell me who is fighting back besides some patriot Republicans, while the GOPe RINOs & Democrat Uni-Party members do what they have been doing to us for decades, selling us down the river while fleecing middle-class Americans.

When you fling the borders wide open, pay illegals to invade the nation rewarding them with the largess of the Treasury for which the middle-class are handed the bill. Reduce military readiness, & cohesion and instead turn it into a social justice experiment, while hallowing out , by forcing out those few who are warriors & replacing them with transgenders & other useless military personnel who are more likely to turn tail & run when the shooting starts. They may actually be justified, as they are using up the stockpiled military resources on a fools errand that never had a chance to succeed. Especially as it was carried out. One would think we are either being led by fools, or people who are intentionally weakening us. Oh wait a minute, both might just be true.

If we roll over and show our belly, as soeroro wanted, that may be enough I would say that meets your requirement of us rolling over and showing our belly.

Are you sure you want to stand by your statement?

Not so sure, but, you have a valid point.

What is preventing from not being sure, because I do have a valid point? I'm willing to listen to you justify being not sure. Is it the court systems? I sure do not see people taking up arms, though I think that is exactly what they want us to do. we don't even have the cohesiveness of the military. we always were a deterrent from outside invaders. But when the invasion is coming from within, & they control the levers of power, we suddenly become rather impotent. We can't even communicate with out them being able to listen in

People really need to wake up. I really is our only chance, at least that I can see.

Are you speaking of Noto Soeroto? He doesn't exactly fit the bill as far as I can see, perhaps there is another Soeroto I've never heard of?

50 posted on 03/28/2024 6:43:44 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: jimwatx

Zelensky’s wife and children are Christian, baptized and all….no idea what ST Zelensky thinks he is…..but the Jews I know would never allow their children or wife to be professing Christians.


51 posted on 03/28/2024 6:44:23 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Eagles6

Never mind, I just figured out that you must be speaking of Barry Soetoro, is that correct? 😋👍


52 posted on 03/28/2024 6:58:04 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes, we are on the same page.


53 posted on 03/28/2024 8:07:24 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Mariner
No, the problem is that pro-Russian propagandists like you repeat every stupid Putin talking point.

The credibility of our government has nothing to do with ISIS claiming credit for the attack and having video sent to them from the attack to prove it.

54 posted on 03/28/2024 8:53:29 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kazan
Russia has been launching terror attacks on civilians since the start of the war. Like bombing a theater full of children in Mariupol.

But in this case ISIS did the job. And the Russian police stood around outside and did nothing for over an hour.

55 posted on 03/28/2024 8:56:13 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Thanks for letting us know that you consider yourself a Russian first.


56 posted on 03/28/2024 8:57:09 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Iron Munro
The feral government . . .
They lie even when there is nothing to be gained by lying.

bttt

57 posted on 03/28/2024 8:58:32 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: rfp1234

Do you really believe that nonsense or did you find it on some Russian ultra-nationalist’s website?


58 posted on 03/28/2024 8:58:53 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes, his real name.


59 posted on 03/28/2024 9:21:12 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Do you really believe what you just posted or did you find it in the Bezos Post?


60 posted on 03/28/2024 9:47:28 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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