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Ukraine Is Going To Lose!
1 posted on 04/08/2024 12:06:38 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Well... bye.


2 posted on 04/08/2024 12:08:04 PM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Navy Patriot
We've seen this approach before.


3 posted on 04/08/2024 12:10:01 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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I straight up don’t care


4 posted on 04/08/2024 12:11:29 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Navy Patriot

We’re not your friggin ATM asshole.


5 posted on 04/08/2024 12:12:00 PM PDT by Kevin in California (EP)
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To: Navy Patriot

The hallmark of a good scam is they never leave money on the table. Z will go to his estate in a foreign country when the people that installed him tell him the money is drying up. That’s years away. Many in Congress openly admit they “care” more about Ukraine than Americans.


6 posted on 04/08/2024 12:12:27 PM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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To: Navy Patriot

Y-y-you mean they’re not winning? What will happen to all the pensions?


9 posted on 04/08/2024 12:20:24 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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He’s not wrong. Russia would have equally been defeated by Germany without US and British supplies and Allied attacks on Germany, including air raids that razed big chunks of German cities. For instance, the US sent 14,000 airplanes and 13,000 tanks to Russia, including ~5,000 of the Airacobra, a fighter first made in 1941.


https://www.rferl.org/a/did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html
[Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.
“I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war,” Stalin said. “The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war.”

Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

“If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war,” he wrote in his memoirs. “One-on-one against Hitler’s Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me.”

The United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.

However, the real significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet war effort was that it covered the “sensitive points” of Soviet production — gasoline, explosives, aluminum, nonferrous metals, radio communications, and so on, says historian Boris Sokolov.

“In a hypothetical battle one-on-one between the U.S.S.R and Germany, without the help of Lend-Lease and without the diversion of significant forces of the Luftwaffe and the German Navy and the diversion of more than one-quarter of its land forces in the fight against Britain and the United States, Stalin could hardly have beaten Hitler,” Sokolov wrote in an essay for RFE/RL’s Russian Service.]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-39_Airacobra#Soviet_Union
[A total of 4,719 P-39s were sent to the Soviet Union, accounting for more than one-third of all U.S. and UK-supplied fighter aircraft in the VVS, and nearly half of all P-39 production.[62] Soviet Airacobra losses totalled 1,030 aircraft (49 in 1942, 305 in 1943, 486 in 1944 and 190 in 1945).[63]]


10 posted on 04/08/2024 12:22:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Navy Patriot

They are going to lose either way. Why postpone it.


11 posted on 04/08/2024 12:24:08 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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So, it’s time to call for a cease-fire and negotiations for peace. But Zelensky can’t make any demands now (he could have made some in 2022, but it’s too late now). Zelensky should resign and live in his British mansion, and let someone else, someone friendlier with Russia take the lead and maybe get a better deal. But if Ukraine lets Biden’s people participate, expect no favors.


18 posted on 04/08/2024 12:48:32 PM PDT by elpadre
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They will lose with or without the aid. The Ukrainian people are tired of being cannon fodder in a proxy war. The median age of a Ukrainian soldier is 42. The draft age minimum is set at 27. Zelensky tried to lower it to 25 and was met by stiff resistance from the public.

How many billions more must we borrow to prolong this unwinnable conflict that has been ongoing since 2014?


19 posted on 04/08/2024 12:51:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Navy Patriot

They’re going to lose no matter what. The sooner they lose the fewer lives will be lost. The sooner we stop sending more of our money, the less of our money will be wasted and stolen.


21 posted on 04/08/2024 12:56:15 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Navy Patriot

YUP! It does not matter a whit — Ukraine Is Going To Lose!


25 posted on 04/08/2024 1:05:45 PM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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Mr. Zelensky,

RhienMetall - Air Defense Systems

EUROSAM GIE - "EUROSAM is the leading French-Italian Joint Venture in Europe that designs, produces, sells, exports and maintains, long range ground and naval based air defense systems."

European Ground-Based Air Defense Programs

European Capabilities

Europe’s defence industry has a number of champions in the field of anti-aircraft missiles. First and foremost is MBDA, a joint subsidiary of Airbus (37.5%), BAE Systems (37.5%) and Leonardo (25%), resulting from the merger of Matra BAe Dynamics, Aerospatiale Matra Missiles and Alenia Marconi Systems.

After winning a large contract from France and Italy for missiles of the Aster family signed at the end of the year (approximately EUR 2 Bn), MBDA signed for the supply of CAMM medium-range missiles to Poland. The European missile builder has already secured more orders amounting to EUR 4 Bn in four months.

Thales produces high-quality radars and Command and Control (C2) capabilities for air defence systems, in addition to well-known missiles such as StarStreak and LMM. Germany has the support of Diehl, which produces the IRIS-T missile and its land-based version, in both short- and medium-range variants.

Added to this, in April 2022, Diehl and Hensoldt decided to intensify their cooperation. Swedish manufacturer Saab produces the RBS70, which includes its NG version. The company also offers radar such as the Giraffe 1X multi-mission 3D. In partnership with Raytheon, Norway’s Kongsberg has been developing the National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) whose model 3 is already fully operational.

Lower Layers of Air Defense

The return of the threat of so-called high-intensity conflicts has revived very short-range air defence (VSHORAD) programmes, a good example of which is the Skyranger 30, produced by Germany’s Rheinmetall Air Defence. Denmark announced on 16 May 2023 that they had selected this piece of equipment.

The turret is equipped with a radar, infrared sensors, and a laser rangefinder. The armament is an Oerlikon KCE 30 × 173 mm automatic cannon that fires Advanced Hit Efficiency and Destruction (AHEAD) air bursting munitions, each of which releases 160 tungsten projectiles. The 1,200 rpm gun is extremely precise, allowing it to engage small aerial targets such as drones.

The Thales rapid fire cannon is also a solution to counter armed drones and loitering ammunition. The system results from a Thales partnership with Nexter. Its 40 mm Case Telescoped Armament (CTA) cannon has the compactness of a 25 mm cannon and provides heavy firepower up to 4,000 m, with a reduced logistics footprint compared to a conventional cannon of the same calibre.


27 posted on 04/08/2024 1:09:50 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Navy Patriot

Child psychology.


31 posted on 04/08/2024 1:22:20 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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Good riddance to Corrupt Ukraine.


32 posted on 04/08/2024 1:25:57 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Navy Patriot

Then he, NATO, and the Deep State should have never started that war in the first place.


33 posted on 04/08/2024 1:26:26 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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Dump Zelenskyy then maybe we can talk about how this war comes to an end.


34 posted on 04/08/2024 1:29:37 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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What? One of your mansions needs a make over?


37 posted on 04/08/2024 2:12:25 PM PDT by cp124 (Bring back the Constitution.)
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Oh no. Lindsey Graham will have to find another war to enrich his Pentagon buddies.


38 posted on 04/08/2024 2:15:27 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: Navy Patriot

Actually Ukraine will win, in the sense that the carnage will stop, peace will come and better relations with its major neighbor. It’s the corrupt oligarchs and the globalist establishment that will lose.


41 posted on 04/08/2024 2:31:02 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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