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Driver justified in shooting bicyclist after road dispute: DA
PennLive ^ | 12 April A.D. 2024 | Madison Montag

Posted on 04/12/2024 9:06:57 PM PDT by lightman

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To: Az Joe
"He was not in the possession of a deadly weapon."

You can ride in my truck with me...I'll keep you in the glove compartment. When I get in a tense situation, I'll pull you out and you can tell me the immediate future...let me know if the perp's got a weapon or not, and whether they're gonna use it on me...or not. Then I'll know how to react.

Also...how's Skinny Minute gonna do in the fifth at Belmont? Win, place or show?

81 posted on 04/13/2024 8:29:31 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: lightman
"Sammy Spandex went from being passive aggressive to being mega active aggressive....IOW nuckin’ futs.

He was headed up the use of force continuum which was halted by superior force."

"...but how in the world are you justified to shoot him??”

There wasn't a picture of the perp. Maybe the driver was in fear of "contracting AIDS"...

82 posted on 04/13/2024 8:32:50 AM PDT by guest7
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To: Az Joe
"He was not in the possession of a deadly weapon."

Oh you must live a sheltered life my friend.

Here are some before and after pictures of Mary Kline, 54, who had the unfortunate experience of being beaten by a young Negro male. Note, he used his fists to do this much damage.

Fractued jaw, broken teeth, and so on.

83 posted on 04/13/2024 8:44:00 AM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: ridesthemiles
I'm dressing your question up a tad, if you don't mind...

"TIME how long it would take for someone to open your door & enter your vehicle & plunge a knife in your neck."

84 posted on 04/13/2024 8:44:13 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: mfish13

Yes, don’t eff with people. This is a textbook example of eff around and find out.


85 posted on 04/13/2024 8:47:41 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: mewzilla
"Ah, I see the idiot bicyclist survived."

"...shooting was reported about 4:20 p.m. on March 13, on Fruitville Pike..."

Was this "Drive time"? Was there a "line of traffic" behind "Sammy Spandex"? Was he/she a traffic hazard?

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86 posted on 04/13/2024 8:52:16 AM PDT by guest7
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To: Lisbon1940

a better question is, was he on the bike when he was shot?


87 posted on 04/13/2024 9:07:17 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: lightman

The driver felt that the cyclist had a duty to get out of the way and so honked at him. The law gives all legal vehicles an equal right to be on the road. There is no duty to move fast and there is no duty to move out of the way of hurried drivers behind you. Automobile drivers think that the road exists only for cars. Not true, but they stupidly still act that way.

The cyclist stopped to block traffic when he was honked at. Please correct me, blocking traffic in this way is not legal.

The cyclist “ought” not to have survived his wounds. Driver “ought” to have used God’s caliber the 45ACP.

We feel that the world “ought” to be a certain way.
The cyclist feels he “ought” to be able to ride the roads without getting honked at.
The driver thinks that the slow-moving vehicle “ought” to get out of his way.
The road-raging man thinks he “ought” to be able to teach somebody a lesson.
Post #4 thinks you “ought” to be able to handle such things without shooting people.

Rather than act as if the world behaves as it “ought” to, why not pay attention to how it actually works?

For anyone who wishes to consider more I suggest three resources.
A book: “Why They Kill” by Richard Rhodes. This book will show you how and why people become killers and suggest what to do about it.
A website: nononsenseselfdefense.org by Marc MacYoung. You will not like what he says about crime, violence and self-defense, but you better read it if you want to AVOID things.
A YouTube Channel: armedattorneys by Walker Taylor Law. Their tubes about road rage are very well done.


88 posted on 04/13/2024 9:21:46 AM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: Az Joe

He was not in the possession of a deadly weapon.
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Nobody is forced to endure a physical beatdown. Deadly force is justified.


89 posted on 04/13/2024 9:40:53 AM PDT by nagant
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To: mfish13

really??? please...


90 posted on 04/13/2024 9:52:40 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: BDParrish

You are correct, sir...”ought” should’ve played a part in this situation.

Double ought.


91 posted on 04/13/2024 10:27:05 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Chode

mfish13 has disappeared he shook up the masses.


92 posted on 04/13/2024 10:38:06 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits NOW)
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To: boomop1

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93 posted on 04/13/2024 10:58:55 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: BDParrish

PA law:

§ 5507. Obstructing highways and other public passages.

(a) Obstructing.—A person, who, having no legal privilege to do so, intentionally or recklessly obstructs any highway, railroad track or public utility right-of-way, sidewalk, navigable waters, other public passage, whether alone or with others, commits a summary offense, or, in case he persists after warning by a law officer, a misdemeanor of the third degree.


94 posted on 04/13/2024 11:19:59 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: Az Joe

I submit to you again, A FIST IS A DEADLY WEAPON!

Are you now going to tell me this man had no hands?

According to the FBI (if you want to believe anything they say)there were 665 murders committed using HANDS/FISTS/FEET committed in 2022.

You can whine about how unfair it was to shoot this person who was exhibiting definite AGGRESSION when he JERKED the drivers door open but you have no idea what the aggressors intent was.

He might have JUST wanted to pull the driver out and STOMP HIS HEAD INTO THE PAVEMENT.

Grow up and go find yourself a set of balls, learn to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones.


95 posted on 04/13/2024 12:05:07 PM PDT by 5th MEB (1)
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