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To: Candor7
A Jew is someone who lives according to the tenants of YWHW, and the majority of practicing Jews are Zionists

Whoa now…

At least 15,000 rabbis would disagree with that statement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5T_Qu12ACs

Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, an outspoken critic of Zionism, discusses the June 3, 2018 convention attended by 15,000 rabbis: Torah Jewry against Zionism / The Incompatibility of Judaism and Zionism.

“Many Jews believe, wrongly, that Zionism is either part of Judaism or is compatible with Judaism, or is even the main part of Judaism. All of those are actually false. Zionism was created to negate Judaism; Zionism was created to replace Judaism. The differences between Zionism and Judaism are vast, they’re vast and profound. The propaganda that the Zionists have churned out for the past hundred years have confused and conflated Zionism and Judaism - such that when the average person walks down the street he thinks that the state of Israel is the Jewish state, he thinks that Zionism is Judaism, and he doesn’t know the difference.”


Most people, especially those who identify as Christian Zionists, would be surprised to learn of the substantial and growing population of secular Israeli Jews who don’t acknowledge “faith in a god.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/religion-has-outsized-role-in-israel-yet-most-of-its-jews-arent-really-observant/

Israel is a nation perennially swept up in religious fervor and conflict. And yet, strikingly, a large portion of its population is secular, and even its insular ultra-Orthodox community loses a steady stream of members who tire of its strict religious rules.

The country is home to about 7 million Jews, almost half of the global Jewish population. But Jewish identity is a complex blend of religious and ethnonational identity; most Israeli Jews are not diligent observers of Judaism.

An Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics survey published in 2021 found that among Israeli Jews over the age of 20, about 45 percent identified as secular or not religious, while 33% said they practiced “traditional” religious worship. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, known as Haredim in Hebrew, made up 10%.

For Naor Narkis and many other secular Israelis, their Jewish identity is culturaldefined by the Hebrew tongue and historical experience — rather than governed by traditional religious worship.

Narkis, a Tel Aviv native, founded Enlightened Israel after last year’s parliamentary elections when ultra-Orthodox and religious ultranationalists helped bring Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu back into office. Narkis says the organization aims to champion liberal values and educate ultra-Orthodox Israelis about them, and advocates for a clear separation of religion and state, including allowing public transit on the Sabbath.

“I don’t think there’s a big difference between a secular Jew living in Tel Aviv and a person living in New York whose parents are Christian but isn’t religious,” Narkis said. “What defines us is our language, and our heritage, but doesn’t involve faith in a god.”


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Rabbi Shapiro has a substantial youtube presence - discussing Zionism vs. Judaism.

Yaakov Shapiro is an international speaker, author, and pulpit rabbi for over 30 years, now emeritus. He has attained an enviable place in the arena of anti-Zionist public intellectuals, having constructed a unique oeuvre on the ideology of Zionism and its relationship to Judaism. After graduating high school at age 16, Rabbi Shapiro dedicated himself to full-time study of religion, becoming the protégé of some of the most well-regarded rabbinic scholars in Orthodoxy. Among his areas of research are religious philosophy, analytic theology, Talmud, Halachah, and Biblical exegesis.

His most recent work, The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft (2018), a 1381-page treatise on the differences between Judaism and Zionism, is the most comprehensive work written on the subject and considered by many to be definitive.

28 posted on 04/19/2024 1:37:16 PM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: yelostar
With defference to the good Rabbi, I respectfully disagree. YOu have Jews who are practicing Jews and then Vichy Jews who would turn on their genuine Jewish "friends" and betray them in a heartbeat, like they did in Vichy France , saving themselves to betray their neighbors and send millions of Jews to the gas ovens of Dachau, Belsin, and Aushwitz. George SOROS is to counted among these and his son Alex is much worse.

The Rabbi speaks from the point of view of the blood connection potential, forgiveness and redemption, which I do not disagree with at all. BUt theology and politics necessarily diverge.Men are judged by their actions and betrayals.

I speak from the point if view of Real Politik, which is the view used by Vichy Jews like Shumer, Schiff and Nadler. They are Jews when it suits them politically, and are non Jews when it suits them, depending on the situation, a cultural heritage of their Revolutionary Bolshevik Ancestry.They are Marxists who have no good intentions about America.

Vichy Jews are the stark, unforgiving enemy of the Jews, and now they work their horrid opposition to those who want to preserve Israel for YHWH's chosen people. Biden, Schumer, Nardler, Schiff, Obama and the whole lot of these sodomites are about to receive a huge punishent.

I estimate they have until passover to repent, which is only a few days away now, 23/24 April.After that the whole lot will walk the avenue of the damned.Whats more , all of them have been warned.

Unfortunately nothing else can be done, all we can do is pray that these sodomites do not drag the rest of our country, the population is mostly under G_d,down along with them, a clear and present danger as they wax into fascism, damning themselves into perdition while the free are made to suffer their machinations, including President Trump, a supporter if Bibi and a servant of G_d?

One thing that the attack on Israel proved, is that YWHW is very active, a miracle that all of the missiles were stopped under the cooperation of disparate allies, who were unprepared, Jordan, Saudi Arabia , UK, And the USA.We see the hand of G_d at work, and these singular idiots like Biden,Obama,Schiff, Nadler, and Schumer are about to discover that.I look forward to watching them fail.


YHWH as of old, now walks Judea:



30 posted on 04/20/2024 4:33:59 AM PDT by Candor7 (Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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