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Appeals Court Rules That Cops Can Physically Make You Unlock Your Phone
Reason ^ | 4.19.2024 | Joe Lancaster

Posted on 04/19/2024 12:39:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: I want the USA back

“The fascist court is wrong.”

How are they wrong? Be specific.


41 posted on 04/19/2024 2:01:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: nickcarraway

Parolees are subject to suspicionless searches.

If it had been posted clearly and concisely earlier instead of the antics.

Some of the confusion may have been cleared up by now.


42 posted on 04/19/2024 2:13:06 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: TexasGator

It is forced self incrimination without due process. This is just like forcing someone to speak against themselves after they have declared the 5th.

It is wrong. And if the courts allow it they are wrong too.

So you really do think Stasi should be allowed to do anything they like anytime they like without question. Citizen’s Rights be damned right? Courts never make a wrong decision?


43 posted on 04/19/2024 2:14:31 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

“It is forced self incrimination without due process.”

Nope. It was a condition of his parole. Read the court’s decision!


44 posted on 04/19/2024 2:18:31 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind

“So you really do think Stasi should be allowed to do anything they like anytime they like without question.”

Absolutely not. But I hate keyboard lawyers posting without knowledge of the facts.


45 posted on 04/19/2024 2:20:59 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind

“Citizen’s Rights be damned right? Courts never make a wrong decision?”

The case is NOT about citizen’s rights. It’s about parolee’s rights.


46 posted on 04/19/2024 2:22:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: nickcarraway

Passcode is in my head and not written down anywhere.

No physical passcodes anywhere.


47 posted on 04/19/2024 2:26:44 PM PDT by dagunk
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To: Freest Republican

“Parolees are subject to suspicionless searches.”

They still have 5th amendment rights correct?

This is just like forcing someone to self incriminate themselves after they have declared the 5th.

This judgement sets precedent that affects all civilians not just parolees.


48 posted on 04/19/2024 2:26:44 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: TexasGator

“The case is NOT about citizen’s rights. It’s about parolee’s rights.”

THIS CASE... The next will be infringement on citizen’s rights.

This judgement sets precedent that affects all civilians not just parolees.


49 posted on 04/19/2024 2:29:09 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: nickcarraway

Doesn’t matter with me I don’t use face or fingerprint ID. Only numbers.


50 posted on 04/19/2024 2:30:29 PM PDT by Gaffer
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This is shocking from liberal 9th Circuit. I bet this will go en banc. Of course if it ever reaches SCOTUS it would probably be upheld as Thomas would say the original constitution didn’t protect cell phones.

I guess the lesson here is that if you have things to hide you need to require alpha-numeric passcode rather than facelock or fingerprint lock. But absolutely no one will follow that advice.


51 posted on 04/19/2024 2:37:02 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: nickcarraway
I don't lock with prints because mine are too shallow.

Getting acceptable prints for gov't purposes requires multiple tries.

So, good luck forcing me to remember my PW....

52 posted on 04/19/2024 2:37:21 PM PDT by G Larry (Biden Fundraising Failure: More advertising for rotting fish is unlikely to improve sales....)
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To: Openurmind

It sure doesn’t seem like they have protection.

It’s odd that we can’t sign our rights away contractually for the most part but to get out of jail, signing rights away=sign right here!

I agree with the slippery slope.


53 posted on 04/19/2024 2:50:35 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: nickcarraway

Numerical password only. Tell them to FO.


54 posted on 04/19/2024 2:51:24 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

I like that -
Left thumb = open
Right thumb = brick


55 posted on 04/19/2024 2:51:41 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Freest Republican

It is the first stage to incrementally applying the practice universally.

Wonder how many times we have to watch them do this very thing before we recognise the need to squash these things right away before they go any further?

Today parolees, tomorrow everyone. Give an inch and they ALWAYS take a mile.


56 posted on 04/19/2024 3:01:39 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: nickcarraway

What would happen if your phone needed a password to be unlocked?

Didn’t that happen to John Eastman?


57 posted on 04/19/2024 3:03:20 PM PDT by Fury
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To: nickcarraway

This is about someone on parole, whose conditions of parole included surrendering his electronic devices. So, not a clear cut violation of rights for the non-lawbreaking population, is it? But it is another cup of lard on the slippery slope, I’ll grant you.


58 posted on 04/19/2024 3:05:09 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: nickcarraway

hopefully this will be appealed to the supreme court, though this is not one of the cases that is likely to see Alito and Thomas side on the side of liberty on.


59 posted on 04/19/2024 3:18:21 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Need a self-destruct password.

Every phone should come with that. Use of the that password would reset the phone to factory condition.

60 posted on 04/19/2024 3:19:37 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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