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Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today (Liberals are now panicking)
Vox ^ | 04/25/2024 | Ian Milhiser

Posted on 04/25/2024 12:55:09 PM PDT by Az Joe

Thursday’s argument in Trump v. United States was a disaster for Special Counsel Jack Smith, and for anyone who believes that the president of the United States should be subject to prosecution if they commit a crime.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fakenews; immunity; jacksmith; johnroberts; scotus; supremecourt; tds; trump; trumppersecution; vox; voxlies
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To: NWFree

Bkmk


81 posted on 04/25/2024 3:53:02 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: BushCountry

Joe Biden droned a father and his 7 children in Afghanistan so that he could look good after that disgusting debacle that cost so many American lives..so gonna wait to see when Biden gets prosecuted for cold blooded murder and he did it on purpose it was no mistake


82 posted on 04/25/2024 3:55:35 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jim Noble

it appears that you are correct.


83 posted on 04/25/2024 3:58:36 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Ge0ffrey
The Press is guilty of gross misconduct.

As always. See Tagline.

84 posted on 04/25/2024 4:05:04 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: thegagline

Naw, if Alito was just spewing the “party line”, he’d included another 50 billion for Ukraine in his arguments and tell the rest of us peons how the whole world will explode unless we capitulate.


85 posted on 04/25/2024 4:15:46 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: thegagline
because future presidents who lose elections would mimic Trump’s criminal behavior

Which isn't what Alito said. Moreover, Trump did not order the military to execute a coup, which is the hypothetical that Alito raised.

86 posted on 04/25/2024 4:26:15 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: CIB-173RDABN

They have and easy out, actually. Rely on the already submitted case on J6 and further find that the government lacks standing to pursue this case because Jack Smith was not properly appointed and dismiss it also pointing out that pursuing political prosecutions is constitutionally forbidden. Then duck the whole mess.


87 posted on 04/25/2024 4:29:02 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Az Joe

Would the Grand Jury vote the same toward Trump if they were selected in Cheyenne?


88 posted on 04/25/2024 4:29:24 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: AndyJackson

Flynn advised him that he should do that and Trump inquired about it. Thankfully he was shot down.


89 posted on 04/25/2024 4:33:24 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: lurk

Nooooooooooo.......


90 posted on 04/25/2024 4:34:26 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Like father, like son. George, the elder gave us David Souter. I can still hear the “Honorable” Senator Rudman vouch for Souter’s “conservative” credentials.


91 posted on 04/25/2024 5:05:13 PM PDT by Paraclete
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On a related note, qualified immunity needs to be ended.


92 posted on 04/25/2024 5:05:55 PM PDT by RightWingNutJob69
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To: Az Joe

“Chief Justice John Roberts”

has been compromised since Obama was in the White Hut.


93 posted on 04/25/2024 5:14:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: 1Old Pro
The lawyer laughingly countered by agreeing and saying the protection against a bad case is the jury, lol, like the NY jury on the Trump trial - a jury that would convict Trump of anything.

Dreeben also said the protection is that no prosecutor would bring a case they knew they would lose because their reputation would take a hit (paraphrase).

-PJ

94 posted on 04/25/2024 5:21:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: AndyJackson
Which isn't what Alito said. Moreover, Trump did not order the military to execute a coup, which is the hypothetical that Alito raised.

Exactly! That is why I posted the quote from the original article which is absolute garbage.

95 posted on 04/25/2024 5:27:42 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: TakeChargeBob

What’s wrong with Sauer’s voice?….It was painful to listen to


96 posted on 04/25/2024 5:28:30 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do”)
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To: Parley Baer

97 posted on 04/25/2024 5:34:34 PM PDT by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: Az Joe

It would be good if the Court just threw the case out, but the problem is that the Court may feel that it can only rule on the Constitutional question and not on the facts of the case.


98 posted on 04/25/2024 5:45:47 PM PDT by x
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To: ByteMercenary
This is what I've been arguing in another thread.

Bragg used a state law to bootstrap the expired misdemeanor book-keeping entries in Manhattan into a felony. Bragg withheld the bootstrapping crime from Trump until the second day of the trial, preventing Trump from preparing a defense against this second charge.

A lawyerly poster said that the language of the legal code in New York doesn't say that the bootstrapping crime has to be tried and convicted, it just has to be "in furtherance of another crime" in order to bootstrap the misdemeanor into a felony. The poster went on to say that Bragg still has to "prove" to the jury that the subsequent crime occurred beyond a reasonable doubt.

He also argued that the text of the law didn't say that the second crime has to be in the same jurisdiction (i.e., a local DA can use a statewide crime in the jurisdiction of the Attorney General that the local DA cannot bring himself).

I've been arguing that if Bragg has to prove the second crime in order to prove the first crime, that's a de facto trial of the second crime. By making Trump put up a defense against the second crime, Trump is essentially on trial for both crimes. There was no grand jury indictment of the second crime, as the Attorney General's office declined to pursue it previously, and the Manhattan District Attorney does not have jurisdiction to bring the statewide crime to a Manhattan grand jury in the first place.

Therefore, I'm arguing that this whole case violates Trump's fifth amendment protection against secret charges by not having a grand jury indictment on the charge that Bragg used to bootstrap the expired misdemeanors into felonies, and withholding that charge from the defendant until after the trial began.

-PJ

99 posted on 04/25/2024 5:56:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: lilypad
The dims just say it wasn’t stolen with no facts or figures to back it up.

Here is an interesting article from yesterday that discusses the logical fallacy that the Democrats have used to avoid discussing the proof of a stolen election -- by avoiding proving it wasn't stolen.

American Thinker: Why 2020 ‘Election Denialism’ Is Not Denialism at All

-PJ

100 posted on 04/25/2024 6:01:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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