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Live thread [4/26/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
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Posted on 04/26/2024 10:48:31 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Have they found a crime yet? I don’t see one.


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To: Sidebar Moderator
With today's focus on "catch and kill" and Pecker's deal with the FEC, why wasn't the publisher of the Los Angeles Times investigated for "catch and kill" when they purchased a photo of Obama and Palestinian activist Khalid Rashidi at a dinner honoring Rashidi for the purpose of hiding it during an election?

Isn't that the same campaign violation that Pecker was investigated for?

-PJ

21 posted on 04/26/2024 12:17:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Bingo. Colangelo and Bragg keep asking for bigger shovels. None of this has anything to do with the underlying crime — supposedly, falsified business records.


22 posted on 04/26/2024 12:23:16 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Political Junkie Too

This is the ultimate Groundhog Day trial. Yawn.


23 posted on 04/26/2024 12:24:23 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Political Junkie Too

On the same line, did not the Los Angeles Times acquire a video of Obama that would hurt his presidential prospects and then bury it?


24 posted on 04/26/2024 12:32:25 PM PDT by Parley Baer (.)
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To: Parley Baer
I only remember the photo.

You might be thinking of Andrew Breitbart's speech at the 2012 CPAC.

Breitbart said:

I have videos, this election we’re going to vet him. We are going to vet him from his college days to show you why racial division and class warfare are central to what hope and change was sold in 2008. The videos are going to come out, the narrative is going to come out, that Barack Obama met a bunch of silver ponytails in the 1980s, like Bill (Ayers) and Bernadine (Dohrn), who said one day we would have the presidency...

Less than four weeks later, Andrew Breitbart was dead.

-PJ

25 posted on 04/26/2024 1:00:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Anybody gotta link?


26 posted on 04/26/2024 1:12:55 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Neither cams or mics are allowed in the courtroom.


27 posted on 04/26/2024 1:33:08 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Parley Baer

did not the Los Angeles Times acquire a video of Obama that would hurt his presidential prospects and then bury it?

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Wasn’t it a dinner attended by/honoring Faisal Kahn? 0bie gave a speech...

Something like that?

But, yes, I do recall LA Slimes burying the vid/story.


28 posted on 04/26/2024 1:36:21 PM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The left stops at nothing to get their way


29 posted on 04/26/2024 2:00:50 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Sidebar Moderator

No surprise. The Left always operates their deceptions and lies in secret.


30 posted on 04/26/2024 2:07:38 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Freee-dame
The left stops at nothing to get their way

I was perusing some old posts of mine when I came across this one from 2012:


No one wants to be, what it is appearing more and more, the next victim of a criminal administration.

This is a pattern with threats to the Left. I can't recall a similar history against the Right.

Ruby killed Oswald before he could testify about assassinating JFK.

Ron Brown dies before he testifies before Congress.

Vince Foster dies before he can resign and leave Washington.

Carlos Ghigliotti, FLIR expert, dies of a heart attack before testifying about the Waco massacre.

Lt. Quarles Harris Jr. is shot before testifying about improperly accessing Obama's passport records.

Breitbart dies suddenly after threatening to expose Obama.

Now the LA coroner lab technician dies before the final report on Breitbart comes out.

Hmmmm...


I should add: Seth Rich is killed before he could be questioned about the DNC emails leaked to Wikileaks.

-PJ

31 posted on 04/26/2024 2:10:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I wonder how many of the people on the Arkancide list are there because of their intent to testify.


32 posted on 04/26/2024 2:26:04 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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I won’t start celebrating yet. SCOTUS scares me to no end.


33 posted on 04/26/2024 3:15:10 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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It’s right there in the indictment. Thirty-four counts of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE, in violation of Penal Law §175.10, in the County of New York and elsewhere, with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof.

(The other crime the defendent intended to commit and conceal will be revealed at a later date.)

But seriously folks -

After reading and viewing commentary on how confusing and unclear the charges are, I took a look at what the pundits at CNN and PMSNBC were saying. They are as bufeddled as everyone else on what Marchant and Bragg are trying to do.


34 posted on 04/26/2024 5:19:02 PM PDT by rwa265
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Oh, I see. Expired misdemeanors — but there’s this other secret “crime,” you see! Makes perfect sense.


35 posted on 04/26/2024 7:41:01 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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I meant befuddled, not befeddled. Even Maddow and her ilk can’t make sense out of it.


36 posted on 04/27/2024 5:13:40 AM PDT by rwa265
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I have been struggling to make sense out of what the ‘get Trump’ crowd is trying to do. Then it occurred to me. They are not interested in following the rule of law. They want to use the law to obtain their desired end. In this case, it means getting a conviction on Trump before the election, even if it means abusing the rule of law.

I believe that the underlying crime will not be identified. Rather, the prosecutors are repeatedly stating that there was a conspiracy to commit election fraud. This is being done to convince the prosecution-friendly jury that there is no doubt that Trump et al conspired to commit election fraud.

When it goes to jury, Merchan will instruct the jurors to determine whether they believe that the evidence presented by the prosecutors demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed election fraud. It doesn’t matter that no specific charge was presented. It doesn’t matter that Trump was never indicted, brought to trial, or convicted for election fraud. If the jury believes that Trump committed election fraud, they can use it as the underlying crime to bring about a felony charge.


37 posted on 04/27/2024 7:46:34 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Political Junkie Too

Great point. I remember when that happened.


38 posted on 04/27/2024 7:52:25 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I have been struggling to make sense out of what the ‘get Trump’ crowd is trying to do. Then it occurred to me. They are not interested in following the rule of law. They want to use the law to obtain their desired end. In this case, it means getting a conviction on Trump before the election, even if it means abusing the rule of law.

I believe that the underlying crime will not be identified. Rather, the prosecutors are repeatedly stating that there was a conspiracy to commit election fraud. This is being done to convince the prosecution-friendly jury that there is no doubt that Trump et al conspired to commit election fraud.

When it goes to jury, Merchan will instruct the jurors to determine whether they believe that the evidence presented by the prosecutors demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed election fraud. It doesn’t matter that no specific charge was presented. It doesn’t matter that Trump was never indicted, brought to trial, or convicted for election fraud. If the jury presumes that it is true that Trump committed election fraud, they can use it as the underlying crime to bring about a felony charge.

Do you think it’s possible that they will try to do this?


39 posted on 04/27/2024 7:55:40 AM PDT by rwa265
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