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Surprise! Right after approving $61 billion, we are told that it is not nearly enough. This author says a minimum of $88 billion is needed each year. At least until the next article asking for $120 billion.

Now they are talking about ramming through an irreversible massive MULTI-YEAR funding plan that would put us on the hook for 10 years. One that Trump somehow could not reverse. 88 billion times 10 is... almost a Trillion dollars.

Enjoy the ridiculous arguments that this won't really cost us a thing because it's a "loan" and the money is spent in the USA. Great why not triple the amount then. We won't see a dime in repayment

1 posted on 04/29/2024 7:10:08 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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2 posted on 04/29/2024 7:10:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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Those cronies in DC who haven’t been paid off yet are getting antsy - like hyenas, they want their share of the carcass


3 posted on 04/29/2024 7:12:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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“Ukraine’s $61 Billion lifeline is not enough”

Of course it’s not enough, Ukraine needs weapons that won’t be assembled until 2 to 5 years from now (for many reasons, including suppliers are now shopping malls and pierced-up kids that don’t know which end of a screwdriver to hold).

No doubt the Zeepers here have a solution to this issue, or they wouldn’t have tried to challenge Russia and now Russia and China.


4 posted on 04/29/2024 7:14:38 AM PDT by BobL (A society built on MERIT cannot survive on DEI (ref. South Africa, and now USA))
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The only thing which will satisfy parasite Zelenski is - more of more of more ......etc.
5 posted on 04/29/2024 7:15:21 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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Ukraine needs more soldiers! Let’s send ALL of Congress that voted for funds to Ukraine to fight for the cause they believe in.


7 posted on 04/29/2024 7:17:26 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Dementia ain't just a river in Egypt. )
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Uncle Sugar is broke


8 posted on 04/29/2024 7:17:27 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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Takes 18 years to produce a soldier. I wonder if the Ukes have enough time to do that before they run out of bodies?


9 posted on 04/29/2024 7:17:42 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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He thinks they want Ukraine to win.

They don’t. They just want to blame Ukraine’s loss on MAGA.


10 posted on 04/29/2024 7:18:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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A multi-year (Ukraine) funding plan would have several benefits. For a start, it would provide some insurance against U.S. political swings.

Oh Goodie!

Let's Lock In Forever War, and make it impossible for Future US Leaders and Legislators to stop this insanity.

11 posted on 04/29/2024 7:18:37 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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This Ukraine funding deal has a “loan” component
but it is not a “Loan” as honest people define “loans.”


Speaker Johnson’s Ukraine Foreign Aid Package is another contrived “no-repay loan” like Hunter Biden got from his sugar-daddy who, as a Biden donor, happened to have $60 million handily laying around (like most working class people do /s):
<><>the Ukraine “loan” allows Joe to “Forgive” 50% of the billions Nov 15, when Trump wins,
<><>or lets Biden forgive 100% of “the Loan” Later On (If he pulls off a 2nd election steal)

Rotflol......the billion dollar joke’s on us.....we been suckered again.

Zelensky knows that cunning routine. Its already been tried.
Few years back, billions more of our tax dollars to Israel
were handed out———designated as a do-good foreign aid “loan.”

But when it came time to pay up, Israel got its lobbies to manhandle Congress.

The battered, bruised Congress sap-happily passed a law
.........saving its collective political ***es.......
quickly turning the foreign aid “loan” billions into a “gift.”


12 posted on 04/29/2024 7:21:31 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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When conservatives in Congress pressed the Biden admin to provide the real cost of the Ukraine war in Jan 2023, the lawmakers estimated the U.S. had spent “a minimum of $114 billion.”
<><>Now, with added OMB information, Cong Vance and company estimate the current total to Ukraine amounts to at least $125 billion—$14 billion over what the OMB had previously claimed.
<><>That’s not all.....Biden could give Ukraine another $4B billion via weapons transfers from US stockpiles under Presidential Drawdown Authority.
<><>This would bring the total amount to Ukraine to $129 billion.

When Biden’s OMB got around to responding almost eight months later, the OMB claimed, through an opaque and admittedly incomplete data sheet, that Ukraine aid totaled $111 billion.
<><>“The deficiencies in OMB’s response were numerous,” said of the OMB’s Sept 2023 response.
<><>“did not account for 100’s of millions of dollars in base appropriations for Ukraine’s Security Assistance Initiative.
<><>It omitted the administration’s ‘$6.2 billion in ‘freed-up’ authority’ to send weapons to Ukraine,
<><>which meant that ‘certain numbers in OMB’s spreadsheet, as well as dollar figures the administration provided for at least some previous Ukraine-related drawdowns, are outdated.’
<><>It did not allow us to determine ‘what obligations, apportionments, and outlays the administration has undertaken for other countries in response to the Ukraine conflict.’”

Cong Vance and company concluded Biden OMB’s Sept 2023 response was “nonresponsive.” In a follow-up letter sent September 28, 2023, they added that
<><>“If OMB’s spreadsheet is to be relied on to produce such a figure—and we believe it cannot be—it is around $111 billion.
<><>It would appear likely that the data you have yet to provide would raise this figure by an indeterminate magnitude.

“Every one of these assertions has been validated,” the Tuesday letter claims. On March 8, 2024, “nearly six months after we again requested a full accounting of Ukraine spending, more than a year after our original request, and one business day before the OMB director was scheduled to testify before the Senate Budget Committee,” the letter notes, OMB finally decided to hand over “another tranche of information.” What it included was shocking.

<><>The latest OMB data to Congress revealed, according to the lawmakers’ letter,
<><>Biden failed to report at least another $684 million in appropriated Ukraine spending,
<><>left out another $900 million in DOD assistance connected to the Ukraine war,
<><>and a number of other pitfalls that has undercounted the total amount of Ukraine aid by a magnitude of billions.
There could be more, too, as lawmakers included a list of 14 probing questions and information requests in their latest correspondence with the OMB director.

No surprise—it’s not Joe Biden’s money at stake........ just the American people’s tax dollars.


Bradley Devlin is the political editor for The American Conservative. Previously, he was an Analysis Reporter for the Daily Caller, and has been published in the Daily Wire and the Daily Signal, among other publications that don’t include the word “Daily.” He graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a degree in Political Economy. You can follow Bradley on Twitter @bradleydevlin.


13 posted on 04/29/2024 7:22:15 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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Expecting the GoFundMe of Zelensky any day now.


14 posted on 04/29/2024 7:22:32 AM PDT by xoxox
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Russia has nukes. Are we going to loan Ukraine nuclear weapons? If not, how do they plan to defeat them?


17 posted on 04/29/2024 7:24:26 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Wasn’t one of the lefts berating chants to Reagan and Bush “No war for profit!!”?


20 posted on 04/29/2024 7:28:10 AM PDT by jughandle
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Folks, it is insane to fund anything there. The EU doesn't even care. Poland does, though.

This could have been handled with a peace treaty giving Russia the original land it had.

Ukraine needed to get its defense in place. It didn't. Did they allow their whole population to own guns, like the US? No. So, if they didn't care to promote simple controls to help get their population on board to fight, we don't have to care, either.

This money is SLUSH MONEY, folks. There is no accountability of any consequence. A lot of the money is literally going to non-defense uses.

Stop further hurting the US by shipping our hard-earned dollars to a terrible, lost cause.

Our inflation rate has gone crazy. The Congress doesn't care, either Republicans or Democrats. The government budget must be radically downsized.

Nothing good is happening. Our debt is growing to senseless levels.

We are corrupting everything we had, and a lot of what we had, could have been a lot better.

This $1 Trillion every 100 days is pushing us into the grave, and we've opened the border to let criminals with fake names and no IDs in to kill and replace us.

22 posted on 04/29/2024 7:28:53 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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23 posted on 04/29/2024 7:29:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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Outside the fact that the current Congress can *NOT* bind any FUTURE Congress. Not that the (R)N(C) would DARE rock *that* boat though


24 posted on 04/29/2024 7:29:11 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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"Now they are talking about ramming through an irreversible massive MULTI-YEAR funding plan that would put us on the hook for 10 years. One that Trump somehow could not reverse."

This is where a line should get drawn. Americans should not be tax slaves to this.
Any politician pushing for this should be confronted about making a declaration of war for this to continue (they won't--no rational argument can be made) and should be made an example of come election time.

25 posted on 04/29/2024 7:31:11 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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26 posted on 04/29/2024 7:31:39 AM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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This nonsense will end when Democrats finally start acting like they would have done if these corporate/foreign "welfare for white people" bills were passed by a GOP-controlled Congress in 2004 and signed into law by George W. Bush.
28 posted on 04/29/2024 7:35:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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