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What Will MAGA Look Like Post-Donald Trump?
AMP America ^ | 04/29/2024 | Tim Sharp

Posted on 05/01/2024 4:18:03 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey

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To: Sir_Humphrey

“Most things that the liberal mafia said would happen under Trump have since manifested under Joe Biden.”

That will get your average liberal sputtering like Biden trying to read a teleprompter.


41 posted on 05/01/2024 5:50:28 AM PDT by cdcdawg (The "rainbow flag" is the symbol of Western neo-imperialism. )
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To: Openurmind

Trump has the support of the right people. H doesn’t depend on swamp money.

Watch


42 posted on 05/01/2024 5:56:04 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Trump has the support of the right people.

He has the right enemies.

43 posted on 05/01/2024 5:56:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: navymom1

Ding Ding Ding!!!!
We have a winner!!!!
You win the internet today!!!!


44 posted on 05/01/2024 5:57:09 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: dfwgator

There’s not another “Trump”... That’s for sure.......


45 posted on 05/01/2024 5:57:52 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: mbrfl
I don't think Ron Paul is a good analogy to Donald Trump. Paul is an orthodox free trader of the Austrian School of Economics. Trump is an economic nationalist and friendly to tariffs and quotas, closer to Alexander Hamilton than to Ludwig von Mises. Paul was no fan of Israel, to put it mildly. Trump was probably the most pro-Israel President ever. Paul was a throwback to Robert Taft- Calvin Coolidge type isolationism. Trump was more in the line of Eisenhower or Reagan: engagement with our allies but putting America's interests first.
46 posted on 05/01/2024 6:01:04 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: dfwgator

He has the right enemies. Yep. And they are the people he is mea to.


47 posted on 05/01/2024 6:03:06 AM PDT by stanne
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To: daku

The Tea party was not ridiculed out of popularity.
It was weakened and destroyed by the uniparty.
In other words, agents from the deep state were sent in.
The T..E..A party stood for, Taxed Enough Already.
It consisted of both democrats and republicans.
It was the people uniting under one umbrella.
It had to be destroyed.
They destroyed it by sending in agents to add key things to it’s platform.
First, we had to add abortion into it.
The democrats fled.
Then we have to add equal rights.
The republicans fled.
Do you see how this works now?
I was a very active participant in the tea party.
I watched it self destruct. Or so we were all lead to believe.

This is how the uniparty attacks an organization.
And this is how they plan to eliminate MAGA.
Keep your eyes open.


48 posted on 05/01/2024 6:10:21 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Wallace T.

Agreed. If the author thinks Ron Paul stands for what Donald Trump stands for, then he doesn’t really understand either of them.


49 posted on 05/01/2024 6:10:44 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: alexander_busek

“What ever became of the “Tea Party?” Same thing will happen with MAGA”

Aren’t these just terms for the collection of more conservative voters?


50 posted on 05/01/2024 6:12:25 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: z3n

TEA Party was splintered by so many unrelated groups using the name or initials. Major grift ensued. Now I agree with the premice of the article, MAGA gift is a direct descendent of TEA Party grift. Results can now be predicted.


51 posted on 05/01/2024 6:13:44 AM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: stanne

“Trump has the support of the right people. He doesn’t depend on swamp money.”

His whole term was spent defending himself from a criminal conspiracy that included the world, both parties, all branches of government, and even his vice president. Everything he did good in his first term was reversed within 6 months after he was out.

And now they have doubled down and have openly become even more unscrupulous. They are going for broke and they hold all the cards. Have we really not learned anything from history? It always repeats it’s self and this time around will be no different. It is already ramping up to be much much worse. The deck is stacked.

Do I like the cards we have been dealt? Absolutely not because it is the worst thing that could ever happen to my Grandchildren. But the deal is done and we are not going to get a redeal for better cards.


52 posted on 05/01/2024 6:27:15 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
One thing I would take issue with: "Republicans have historically had an insatiable lust for war." Until the Cold War and the need to stop the totalitarian communist imperialists, Republicans had actually been the party of America First.....ie avoiding foreign wars. In 1976 in the vice presidential debates, Bob Dole pointed out that all the big wars (WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam) had been fought by Democrat administrations - not Republican administrations. The Bushes were the ones to break that norm. MAGA/America First is just a return to what I would call the default setting of the modern Republican party.

In the 1920s it was Republican Senator Gerald Nye and other Republicans who formed the War Profiteering Committee to investigate the equivalent of the MIC and how they pushed the US into WWI and profited from it. You will see other populist Republicans after Trump being suspicious of warmongering, the MIC, the Deep State, etc. This is a consistent line of thought among the American people that was only temporarily interrupted by the need to defeat the expansionist totalitarians.

53 posted on 05/01/2024 6:34:20 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: mbrfl

“If the author thinks Ron Paul stands for what Donald Trump stands for, then he doesn’t really understand either of them.”

No... That means you do not truly understand Ron Paul. You believe the propaganda myths perpetuated by the new world order establishment. But it is not just you, even the Libertarians themselves do not truly understand Ron’s true stance on matters and try to put false words in his mouth by taking them out of context.


54 posted on 05/01/2024 6:34:24 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

“ they hold all the cards.”

People are defeatist They’re uncomfortable with Trump being mean to their captors. Be nice to them and they might be benevolent dictators

If you side with them and see them as going after Trump only and not the American people- who want Trump and voted him in twice- then you think he’s rude You see him the way they see him- he’s rich so he must have done something illegal put him in court and jail and keep hoping for someone to come along and change their hearts

It’s so silly

Do you watch what they do? You’re ok with their being in charge? You think they’re going to just hand it over? They are not.


55 posted on 05/01/2024 6:38:04 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Trump was basically a moderate Republican - he promoted tax cuts, secure borders, strong defense but fewer international ties, more efficient Federal Govt, less Federal Social engineering of American social life. He cut no Federal Departments, let government grow, grew debt, etc... just like a good RINO of the last 50 years.

Very standard modern GOP stuff - nothing Washington DC should be scared of

What surprised me is, in spite of this, they were deathly afraid of him. I assume because Washington DC is now occupied by Marxists, and he wasn’t in on their grifting scheme. They fought him like a human body fighting a deadly bacteria.

So what comes after Trump? People with FAR more radical ideas


56 posted on 05/01/2024 6:48:22 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: stanne

You are greatly taking my own stance out of context. You are completely twisting my premise.

Not being in denial and being intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall as a realist is NOT support or capitulation for the enemy.

Same thing the establishment did to Ron Paul. It is deceptive to twist my words into something they are not. If you feel you have to do that then you have forfeited the debate.


57 posted on 05/01/2024 6:54:36 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

No, I look at what he says and writes and where he stands on the issues, time and time again. He believes that illegal immigration should be discouraged through market incentives, not through border enforcement mechanisms like border walls, which is just another way of saying that he doesn’t take illegal immigration seriously.

If you’re going to tell me Ron Paul and Donald Trump’s positions on that issue are the same, then you’re not listening to what the two of them have said on the subject.
It’s really easy for Ron Paul to insist he’s against illegal immigration as much as anyone, but the policies he supports tell a different story. It’s like when Joe Biden tells you that he’s against terrorism then funds Iran and Hamas. The assurances are meaningless. It’s the policy that matters.


58 posted on 05/01/2024 7:11:24 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Openurmind

People who close the debate simply don’t want to debate. The left does that

It is so easy to forfeit the competition Most people are so happy to throw it and claim victory for the other side. They see Trump unwilling to do this so they say he’s a loser and he’s mean

He is neither

Trump is a winner. They are losing.


59 posted on 05/01/2024 7:28:10 AM PDT by stanne
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“People who close the debate simply don’t want to debate. The left does that.”

No... You flipping the truth 180 degrees to the polar opposite like this is what the left does.

You have done it twice now... I have not done that and would never do that. Unlike you, I have been straight up and not twisted one thing period.

You can fool yourself if you like, but you are not fooling me. It is a matter of record...


60 posted on 05/01/2024 7:38:07 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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