US Navy too slow, too outdated to match China’s surging fleet

Asia Times ^ | 5/9/24 | Gabriel

[hardspunned]

Plagued by delays in ship repairs and outdated design practices, the US Navy faces mounting challenges in maintaining readiness and keeping pace with China’s rapid shipbuilding advancements.

This month, USNI News reported that the US Government Accountability Office (GAO) revealed that fewer than 40% of US Navy ships had completed repairs on time, despite the availability of shipyard space.

The GAO ranked shipyard conditions second only to F-35 Lightning II air fighter sustainment costs as the most problematic readiness issue facing the US armed services.

[Captainpaintball]

Yeah, OK, so what? ‘Cause I just KNOW china don’t be as woke as we be! And not as gay friendly!

[Freest Republican]

I completely appreciate the sentiment.

You may want to search US industrial capacity.

[daniel1212]

Todays NAVY is much too woke to stand up to china.

I keep adding to the list, which extends to all branches.

[daniel1212]

Building capacity:

The Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) recently assessed that the China’s shipbuilding industry fields 232 times the shipbuilding capacity of the United States, representing almost 50% of total global shipbuilding capacity.

An unclassified slide from the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) highlighting differences between U.S. Navy and PLA Navy shipbuilding capacity, ship count, and overall tonnage. (U.S. Navy graphic)

these snapshots of quantitative position fail to account for the rate of qualitative improvement required for China to achieve this feat of material and professional development – from backwater to backbone. China’s modern shipbuilding behemoth is only 20 years old, the result of a deliberate Chinese Communist Party (CCP) campaign of maritime expansion begun in response to the US Navy’s Summer Pulse 2004 exercise when China represented only around 10% of global ship production-

China's Navy is Using Quantity to Build Quality https://maritime-executive.com/editorials/china-s-navy-is-using-quantity-to-build-quality

[TexasGator]

““Such stumbling blocks are hobbling the US’ defense posture against its near-peer adversary, China, whose shipbuilding capacity has surged beyond the US, with China’s shipbuilding capacity 232 times greater than that of the US.“”

Source: Single slide leaked by unknown person.

[TexasGator]

““The [People’s Liberation Army] navy has been on a historic trajectory these last 25 years, and while we are, I am, confident that we would prevail in combat,” Adm. Samuel Paparo, Jr., commander for U.S. Pacific Fleet, told senators Thursday. “We are not overmatched, but I don’t like the pace of the trajectory.””

[daniel1212]

You may want to search US industrial capacity.

Which research says:

China is the top nation in terms of manufacturing output and the percentage of its national output that is generated by that sector. Poland meanwhile has the highest percentage of its workforce employed in manufacturing, followed by Germany, Italy, Turkey, and South Korea. - https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/

Top 10 manufacturing countries in the world

1. China – 28.4% Global Manufacturing Output
2. United States – 16.6% Global Manufacturing Output
3. Japan – 7.5% Global Manufacturing Output
4. Germany – 5.8% Global Manufacturing Output
5. India – 3.3% Global Manufacturing Output
6. South Korea – 3% Global Manufacturing Output
7. Italy – 2.3% Global Manufacturing Output
8. France – 1.9% Global Manufacturing Output
9. United Kingdom – 1.8% Global Manufacturing Output
10. Indonesia – 1.4% Global Manufacturing Output

    Although the United States used to be the world’s top manufacturing hub, it has been over 10 years since China claimed the top position. With low costs, a large workforce, and strong production quality, China has a comfortable 10 percent lead on the United States. - https://www.safeguardglobal.com/resources/top-10-manufacturing-countries-in-the-world-2023/

    
    Source: OECD TiVA database, 2023 update.

    China’s industrialisation is unprecedented. The last time the ‘king of the manufacturing hill’ got knocked off the throne was when the US surpassed the UK just before WW1. It took the US the better part of a century to rise to the top; the China-US switch took about 15 or 20 years. China’s industrialisation, in short, defies comparison.- https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/china-worlds-sole-manufacturing-superpower-line-sketch-rise

    The U.S. Defense Industrial Base Is Not Prepared for a Possible Conflict with China..According to the results of a series of CSIS war games, the United States would likely run out of some munitions—such as long-range, precision-guided munitions. This would occur in less than one week in a Taiwan Strait conflict.

    These shortfalls would make it difficult for the United States to sustain a protracted conflict. These problems are particularly concerning since the rate at which China has been acquiring high-end weapons systems and equipment is five to six times faster than the United States, according to some U.S. government estimates. - https://features.csis.org/preparing-the-US-industrial-base-to-deter-conflict-with-China/

[Freest Republican]

Not even two times but they’re making 237 times as many ships.

Completely decimated yet second in the world.

The research that quantifies it to the past.

I think it will come up mid 1960’s or 20yrs after WWII but could mistaken.

[PGR88]

Your tax money being wasted by Democrats and Republicans to enrich contractors that deliver late and over-budget.

I feel Fed.gov is in exponential theft mode. The entrenched bureaucracy must be paid, more people in and connected to Fed.gov demand payouts, costs are rising and the debt if blowing-out.

And America's deep state is both recipient of, and protector of the racket.

[TalBlack]

“… one can only hope that we maintain a technical advantage.”

DEI will see to that. The ever increasing sophistication of our weapons has been a problem for the volunteer army going back a while now. DEI may be the straw that breaks the camels back.

[Freest Republican]

Another useful thing may be searching it in terms of dollars to get an idea of exactly what it is that is being manufactured.

Ofc they have 3times as many people.

This really isn’t that complicated.

This story is bs like almost all our news fr downtown Beijing.

[LouAvul]

They’re plundering the company before the collapse.

[Freest Republican]

fwiw I do appreciate you posting the one national chart.

US/Japan/Germany >=China despite having a fraction of the population.

[kenmcg]

Don’t buy it from the Asia Times, our Navy still the best in the world ie, aircraft carriers, submarines, guided missile frigates, cruisers, supply ships, etc. Our problem is the leadership with their WOKE mentality.

[Freest Republican]

Raiding the treasury to obscenity is often associated with tyrannical despots right before the door slams them in their rear end. Hopefully, it is a sign that their end is near.

[linMcHlp]

Navy report on USS Bonhomme Richard fire finds sweeping failures

Burned up, dockside, San Diego, surrounded by fire fighting resources and several hundred men and women . . . but also many frocked ego's.

A lost opportunity for educating firefighters - with a ship not in combat - a relic that should have been towed down the bay and beached, for future fire-fighting training.

The U.S. could double the number of ships - that results in maybe 10 more that "somehow manage to be well-built" . . . but the U.S. cannot increase military leaders who are NOT political officers constantly fighting over the definitions:

What is a man?

What is a woman?

[Paal Gulli]

In the 21st Century, air power wins naval battles, and the US has been running 24-hour all-weather carrier ops longer than anyone else on the planet.

In comparison, China has had “blue water” carriers, what, 15 minutes?

[Rummyfan]

So get busy building there Navy back up!

[TexasGator]

“In comparison, China has had “blue water” carriers, what, 15 minutes?”

Their carriers are not near as capable as ours.

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

I think long range missles that go undetected are the future and one can decapitate a ship just like Ukraine has been doing to Russia