Here may be our problem with Islam

The Koran #47 - Muhammad ^ | 600+ AD | Muhammad

[XBob]

For your review

[Drew68]

Here is a interesting Hindu take on Islam. The author does not spare his feelings at all.

[XBob]

that part sounds just like some of the 'christian' rants on FR I have been subject to, if you take the meanings and not the strange verbage.

[syriacus]

My daughters and I were discussing Mohammed the other night. We wondered kind of religious background he came from. In other words, What religion was practiced by his friends and relatives before he introduced Islam?

So we looked him up in several books we have, including the Pictorial History of Philosphy, by Dagobert D. Runes, Philosophical Library , NY. (pp 166-167)

It seems idolatry was practiced in his area, but Mohammed changed that.

We also learned, from the book, that "He did not feel he was a saint, and consciously refrained from performing miracles."

[sam_paine]

So why does GWB trip over himself to make a distinction between terrorists and Islam, "a peaceful religion???"

Or was he intentionally using the term "crusade" as an allusion to what's coming.

[syriacus]

Here is a interesting Hindu take on Islam. The author does not spare his feelings at all.

Thank you for the informative link.

[Wright is right!]

Here's MY review:

It's making my eyes glaze over.

Michael

[sharktrager]

I'll have to remember that...

"I consiously refrain from performing miracles." is my new credo.

[XBob]

Mohammed was a radical something (I haven't been able to determine what), born in Mecca, he was run out of Mecca as a young man by the people there. He sought refuge in Medina and was welcomed by the Jews there in Medina, for about 17 years. He started his writings and gathering Medina Jews for his army and began to attack other tribes in the area of Medina, built his army and trained his Jewish Generals, until they were able to attack Mecca and beat his old enemies. Then the Jews got fed up with him, and quit his army, and were then attacked by his remaining army and killed. He was initially a minor husband of a rich woman in Medina and took her riches to start his career.

So, Mohammed is a puzzlement, who turned on just about everyone who befriended him. Must have been quite a talker though. I guess he reminds me of bill clinton.

[fporretto]

According to Paul Johnson's History Of Christianity, Mohammed was a Monophysite Christian -- i.e., a Christian who did not accept the doctrine of the Trinity. He simplified Christian doctrine for Arabic consumption, added the idea of conversion by the sword for local political effectiveness, and accepted the role of Prophet of the new faith of Islam after it became the dominant religious and political force in the region. Within twenty years, the Monophysites had nearly all been absorbed into Islam.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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[XBob]

"So why does GWB trip over himself to make a distinction between terrorists and Islam, "a peaceful religion???" Or was he intentionally using the term "crusade" as an allusion to what's coming"

All my Moslem friends are generally very peaceful and honorable, but like Christians, will fight. Like radical Christians and Jews, the Moslems all 3 religions believe also in the same God, but selectively pick portions of the Koran/Bible to justify their hegonomy.

I just picked this one as one of the passages which 'justifies' their actions. Remember too that all non-christians are going to hell, and 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.'

I think W just made a normal choice of his normal vocabulary in choosing the word 'crusade'. Just a long term 'war', not a single battle. Unfortunately, it was taken in the meaning used in the middle-ages. He is now using the synonym, for his meaning, 'campaign'.

[Helms]

God made a promise to Israel-

Where does it all end, all made promises. All using religion in their Will To Power

Comments like yours disgust me.

Next time get it in writing from God, rather than heresay.