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A CHAMBERLAIN FOR OUR TIMES (Whose side is Canada's Chretien on?)
Toronto Sun ^ | 9/23/01 | BOB MACDONALD

Posted on 09/23/2001 6:56:21 AM PDT by LarryLied

The tired, drawn face and weak, confusing actions these days of Prime Minister Jean Chretien raises growing doubts that he has the stomach and energy to lead Canada in the upcoming all-out war against international terrorism.

Is it time that he -- like Britain's tired and confused Neville Chamberlain when war against Hitler's Nazi Germany broke out -- step down as PM and hand the reins over to a more energetic and determined successor?

Many Canadians and opposition parties are increasingly criticizing the 67-year-old PM for dithering nearly two weeks on a decision to pledge full military support, including fighting troops to the multi-national force being organized by U.S. President George W. Bush.

And they're concerned about his refusal to declare that his government will go all out to find and eliminate terrorist groups in Canada -- along with those who support and finance them.

In fact, Chretien even made the nutsy statement that there are no terrorists in Canada, despite his own CSIS intelligence service reporting it found 50 terrorist groups.

Increasingly, many are angry that he dodges and weaves on a badly needed promise to toughen our sieve-like immigration and refugee system -- something that's given Canada the title "sucker nation of the world" for decades.

There's also concern about Chretien's foot-dragging on a commitment to work with the U.S. to create co- ordinated border security and immigration-refugee systems to catch terrorists on both sides of the border.

Make no mistake. All the above subjects will be discussed bluntly by Bush when Chretien finally visits Washington tomorrow and meets the U.S. president behind closed doors.

The hard-driving American leader will want answers to the statement he made in Thursday's historic speech to Congress: "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Oh sure, there will be the "shoulder-to-shoulder" photo-ops of the two together that Chretien badly wants to show Canadians that all is right between him and the president. And there will be some nice-sounding public statements by both to claim they are "working together."

But what Bush will demand is clear: positive answers for an all-out military commitment and promises to work closely together to clean out terrorists and toughen immigration-refugee systems on both sides of the border.

Indications are that Chretien is clinging to a "peace in our time" hope: Trying to persuade Bush to accept substitutes for fighting troops, such as planes and taking over U.S. peacekeeping duties in the former Yugoslavia. And he's well aware that his native Quebec gave the lowest support for an all-out war against terrorism in the latest opinion poll -- just 59% compared to a national average of 73% and 79% for Ontario.

It appears Chretien wants an anti-terrorist campaign that allows him to keep much of the weak immigration-refugee system in Canada that has long meant heavy immigrant votes for his Liberals.

From the start, after the horrific attacks on New York's World Trade Center and Washington's Pentagon, Chretien has come across as a man in shock, unable to take the decisive actions so badly needed to meet such a serious threat.

He did offer condolences to Bush and the victims. However, unlike other leaders like Britain's Tony Blair, he didn't go to New York to survey the devastation and boost the spirits of the rescue teams. He didn't even go to Washington.

The fact that Bush left a mention of Chretien and Canada out of his historic speech was no mistake. Despite "diplomatic" denials all around, it was done to shock both Canadians and our PM -- to wake us up about Chretien's foot dragging.

In fact, the Chretienites have refused to identify the 25-35 Canadians buried in the World Trade Center rubble -- calling such information "private." They must fear publicity about the victims will cause more demands for action from Canadians.

Chretien didn't even attend a memorial service in Toronto last week for victim David Barkway.

And on Friday when there was a memorial service in Hamilton for United Airlines pilot LeRoy Homer, husband of a Hamiltonian, Chretien was attending an Ottawa mosque, apologizing to Muslims for any harassment they might have received.

Ah yes, and tomorrow, unlike Blair and others, he isn't even dropping in to New York to survey Ground Zero where Canadians lie.

His flunkies claim he doesn't have the time.

You see, after his Washington meet and photo-op with Bush, our harried, tired Prime Minister will rush in his taxpayer-paid jet to Toronto for an obviously top priority event:

A Liberal party fundraising dinner.



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1 posted on 09/23/2001 6:56:21 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Shameful. Absolutely shameful. I hope that our Canadian bretheren will realise that it is time to dump this piece of leftist excrement.

Regards, Ivan

FreeBritannia.co.uk
2 posted on 09/23/2001 6:59:14 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LarryLied
Thanks for the article...says it all. I have been saying the world cannot make the same mistakes as Chamberlain!

BTT - good post!

3 posted on 09/23/2001 7:01:52 AM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer
bttt
4 posted on 09/23/2001 7:05:03 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: LarryLied
Neville Chretien, seems about right for the spineless man.
5 posted on 09/23/2001 7:06:33 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Cousin, at least Chamberlain had an excuse - he lacked the imagination to see that other world leaders were not as honourable nor as gentlemanly as he was. Chretien doesn't have the same background.

Regards, Ivan
6 posted on 09/23/2001 7:07:55 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LarryLied
And he's well aware that his native Quebec gave the lowest support for an all-out war against terrorism in the latest opinion poll -- just 59% compared to a national average of 73% and 79% for Ontario.

Can we send Berkley to Quebec? I'd bet Berkley could easily become the capital of Quebec.

7 posted on 09/23/2001 7:12:38 AM PDT by nancetc
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To: LarryLied
"Either your with us or with the terrorist..."

Much like Hill's chagrined Thurs night look, the lib's/commie's around the world now know the "GIG IS UP", for awhile...

8 posted on 09/23/2001 7:13:25 AM PDT by Atilla_the_Hun (God Bless our Troops-Seek/Destroy/Come Home SAFE)
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To: LarryLied
The tired, drawn face and weak, confusing actions these days of Prime Minister Jean Chretien raises growing doubts that he has the stomach and energy to lead Canada in the upcoming all-out war against international terrorism.

Has Canada ever had a problem with "international terrorism" ?

Nobody seems to be targeting Canada or Canadians

9 posted on 09/23/2001 7:15:22 AM PDT by Alan Ford
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To: LarryLied
This comes as no surprise to those of us who have been watching Canada under Chretien. To Americans just coming to the party, the idea that Canada is not our best friend in the world, in fact that there is anti-American sentiment north of the border, is shocking. I long have been sympathetic to Canadiens' desire to protect their culture and sovereignty, but if they aren't going to join us COMPLETELY in this fight, they are with the terrorists. And if that's the case, there should and will be a much greater American influence on life in Canada.
10 posted on 09/23/2001 7:15:31 AM PDT by looscannon
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To: coteblanche,headsonpikes,NorthernRight,gordgekko ,Canuck1,Bubbah Gump,Clive
Is there any chance he would step down?
11 posted on 09/23/2001 7:16:25 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: MadIvan
I hope that our Canadian bretheren will realise that it is time to dump this piece of leftist excrement.

One would hope. I can say, being close enough to the border to pick up a couple of the Canadian stations from Ontario, that PM Cretin appears to have lost his feel for the pulse of Canadians on this issue. English-speaking Canadians, anyway - I can't vouch for the Quebecois in any way other than a sort of general "they're mostly worthless anyway" kind of sense ;)
12 posted on 09/23/2001 7:21:58 AM PDT by general_re
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To: MadIvan
Cousin.....

In that context you are right, Neville was a gentleman, and a man out of his league when dealing with men of evil. Weak, Chamberlain was, dishonorable, no. Chertien on the other hand is well aware of the background of the world stage figures he is having to deal with. His personal dishonesty, weakness of character and lust to maintain power at any cost, is doing great harm to the reputation of Canada. We have faith in the people of Canada to do what is right, we have no faith in Neville Chretien....

13 posted on 09/23/2001 7:22:01 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Alan Ford
Has Canada ever had a problem with "international terrorism"? Nobody seems to be targeting Canada or Canadians

I don't know the name of the Canadian writer who said it the other day, but (paraphrasing), he described Canada as "an aircraft carrier for terrorists" intent on attacking the U.S.

14 posted on 09/23/2001 7:25:08 AM PDT by looscannon
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To: all_together, AntiKev ,Argh,badfreeper,beaubazzoo, BillM ,BLOODHOUND,conniew,DTA
Canadian freeper heads up.
15 posted on 09/23/2001 7:30:14 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
"Is there any chance he would step down?"

Not likely.

Our 'ti Jean has an ego the size of all outdoors.

And our opposition is in massive disarray.

Best we can hope for, and that will be 3 years away, will be that he gets so outrageous that he provokes an ABC movement (Anybody But Chretien).

16 posted on 09/23/2001 7:32:33 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Alan Ford
Has Canada ever had a problem with "international terrorism" ? Nobody seems to be targeting Canada or Canadians

Everybody would have laughed at someone claiming on Sept 10 the World Trade Center was going to be attacked and collapse the next morning. There's no guarrantee Canada is secure from int'l terrorism just because there doesn't seem to be any threat to you. However at the RCMP and CSIS there are people trying to track the movements of suspicious people with limited resources they receive from the Chretien government. The Chretien government inspires so little confidence compared to the Bush Administration I'm close to taking down my Canadian flag and buying an American one!

17 posted on 09/23/2001 7:49:16 AM PDT by Ipberg
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To: MadIvan
Shameful. Absolutely shameful. I hope that our Canadian bretheren will realise that it is time to dump this piece of leftist excrement.

I saw a graphic from a Britsh newspaper, showing a map of the world, and all the countries the murdered people came from. Canada suffered 60-100 dead. England, 100-300. Mexico, about 500 (in the country legally or not). That should make for three very pissed-off populations right there.

18 posted on 09/23/2001 7:51:55 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: cynicom
Chretien is a weak dishonest coward. Anyone with half a brain knows that he and his close set of advisors are corrupt. I am sad to say that it is the misguided voters of Ontario that are responsible for electing him twice.This is what we get for too many quebecers in government, it is too bad that separatism is weak now- we would be better off without quebec in Canada. What an embarrassment he is to Canada.
19 posted on 09/23/2001 8:18:05 AM PDT by Oldtory
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To: LarryLied
Sounds chillingly more in line with Clinton rather than Chamberlain.
20 posted on 09/23/2001 8:23:49 AM PDT by L`enn
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