Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

Accuracy in Media ^ | September 24, 2001 | Cliff Kincaid - Reed Irvine

[majordivit]

How do you feel today, in light of the revelation that project bojinka was known to the cia since 1995, when you hear official after official proclaim "nobody could have foreseen this type of a terrorist attack!"

[majordivit]

With all due respect this isn't the case. All those involved in this savagery on 9-11 must be put to the sword. But to pretend that Islam is, in and of itself, a savage religion, and that the resentment f the west arises ex nihilo is not intellectually rigorous, and will only cause substantially more problems.

How many millions of Indians have been killed or maimed or injured by Pakistanis in all these wars? The Hindus are not violent people. They don't even kill animals. They don't even eat meat. They're not violent people. Those muslim maniacs have been creating problems and have been going to war and trying to exterminate the Indians for the longest of time...India and Pakistan..

just one example..should I go on ..?

[a history buff]

When your people were living in oppressive political systems, such as Germany under that infamous corporal, they, too, used violent means to make their point known. The Nazis used the "terrorist" assassination of their ambassador to Paris to prove that "Jews were inherently dangerous," "unfit to live with "normal people,"" and thereby distracted the German people from a failing economy. The parallels, especially if you read the German press of the time, are chilling.

This is not to say that all those guilty of the barbarity of 9-11 shouldn't be put to the sword. They must. But it doesn't end there.

The fact of the matter is that all Arab gov'ts are repressive, and repression begets but more repression.

Have you ever considered why India, "the world's largest democracy etc..." will not let the people of Jammu and Kashmir vote on whether they would like to secede, despite the fact that both the British and Kashmiris think J&K would be better off in Pakistan?

[majordivit]

Kashmiri Muslim Nazis burn the Indian flag after a disappointing election

On October 1, 2001, a savage Muslim terrorist attack in the Indian state of Kashmir killed 38 people and wounded 60.

The terrorists were dressed in police uniforms and drove a car armed with a powerful bomb. They waited patiently while police stopped traffic to let local lawmakers exit from a government compound. When they were allowed to proceed, the Muslim trio crashed through a flimsy barricade and detonated their explosives at the compound gate.

Most of the fatalities were motorists in other cars and pedestrians in the street. The surviving terrorists raced into the compound firing guns and throwing grenades. Indian police and paramilitary responded with artillery, igniting a fire

Hindus are also targets of Islam

A Muslim terrorist attack in Kashmir on October 1, 2001 slaughtered dozens)

The death toll was the highest in Kashmir since 1999, when 35 Hindus on pilgrimage to a Hindu shrine and their Kashmiri guides were murdered in a gun battle between Muslim terrorists and security forces. Tens of thousands have been killed during the 13 years of the Kashmiri terror campaign, perpetrated in the only part of India with a Muslim majority. Islamic terrorism throughout the subcontinent has continued with Pakistan's blessing despite the repeated and strenuous denials of that country's mendacious Islamic military rulers.

India's beautiful but dangerous Kashmir
(Unfortunately polluted by Muslim Nazis)

In the aftermath of the massacre, India's prime minister, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, wrote a letter to President Bush blaming Pakistanis for the latest attack and suggesting that Pakistan is lying when it says that there are no terrorist groups operating from its territory:

"There is a limit to the patience of the people of India," Vajpayee wrote. "Ironically, [the terrorist attack] comes only a day after the Pakistan president announced on television that his country has no terrorist groups operating from its territory."

The United States has praised Pakistan for its help in the "anti-terror coalition" against Osama Bin Laden, whose stronghold is in neighboring Afghanistan.

Pakistan's military dictator Pervez Musharraf
(America's "ally" is an exporter of Muslim terrorism to Hindu India)

General Pervez Musharraf, the military dictator of Pakistan, has continued to call the Muslim terrorists in Kashmir "freedom fighters" and ludicrously but typically implied that the latest bloodbath was the work of the Indian secret service: "It appears to be aimed at maligning the legitimate struggle of the Kashmiri people for their right to self-determination."

Resembling similar libels against the Mossad, the Israeli secret service -- which has been blamed in many Muslim circles for the World Trade Center attack -- Musharraf's statements have failed to acknowledge the claim of responsibility by Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistan-based terror gang led by Masood Azhar, a former member of Bin Laden's Harkat ul-Mujahideen network. Azhar, who launched the Jaish-e-Mohammed gang, was one of three men freed from Indian jails in 1999 in exchange for a hijacked Indian airliner flown to Afghanistan. After his release, he resurfaced in Pakistan, openly giving speeches calling for attacks on India and the United States.

[Black Jade]

Brainwashed terrorists don't belong here. Disaffected citizens of our satrapies definitely do. Otherwise we risk having our political system totally gum up.

If we are talking about "extremists," such as those who I referred to in post #91, those trained for the Afghan "jihad," then we ARE talking about "brainwashed terrorists," not "disaffected citizens" of anywhere.

[a history buff]

We agree.

[Black Jade]

With all due respect this isn't the case. All those involved in this savagery on 9-11 must be put to the sword. But to pretend that Islam is, in and of itself, a savage religion, and that the resentment f the west arises ex nihilo is not intellectually rigorous, and will only cause substantially more problems.

I agree. It is just as inaccurate to say that all Muslims are "terrorists," as it would be to say that all Christians are "terrorists" because of what the IRA or the Phalange of Lebanon have done.

How many millions of Indians have been killed or maimed or injured by Pakistanis in all these wars? The Hindus are not violent people. They don't even kill animals. They don't even eat meat. They're not violent people. Those muslim maniacs have been creating problems and have been going to war and trying to exterminate the Indians for the longest of time...India and Pakistan..

This is not historically accurate. The Kashmir conflict is not one sided, good vs. evil, by any means. It may be true that the upper caste Brahmin Hindus are ideally required to not eat meat, but that does not mean that India has not committed its own share of atrocities in wars with Pakistan and in Kashmir. Remember that Mahatma Ghandi was assassinated by a Hindu extremist.

How do you feel today, in light of the revelation that project bojinka was known to the cia since 1995, when you hear official after official proclaim "nobody could have foreseen this type of a terrorist attack!"

I think that this is outrageous. Obviously the FBI & CIA were NOT really totally surprised by 9-11. They were also warned by the Mossad and other sources, as has been mentioned on other threads. After examining the logistics involved, I have to conclude that this assessment is correct: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20010913.shtml: "Security experts and airline officials agree privately that the simultaneous hijacking of four jetliners was an 'inside job,' probably indicating complicity beyond malfeasance. This makes all the more ominous Tuesday's national catastrophe and its dismal consequences."

[backhoe]

Indexing...

[Republican_Strategist]

Clinton's Bin Laden GATE - Mother of all Scandals

[PatiPie]

Thanks for the flag!

[backhoe]

Thanks for looking- AIM has been trying to wake up America for years!

[rwfromkansas]

bump

[backhoe]

Bump- for never forgiving---

[backhoe]

Bump for the newbies & lurkers....

[Uncle Bill]

BTTT

[philman_36]

Bookmarked and no reply from you that I see. Why didn't you make your comments then?

[Amelia]

Would you like to give your suggestions for how they'd have stopped it?

[1Old Pro]

When we repeatedly said that Klintoon was a danger to America nobody listened.

And now? Don't expect the media to investigate Klintoon's culpability, they're too busy "investigationg" important things like Laura Bush drinking and other stories to muddy Bush.

[majordivit]

That's right. 8 Years the traitor Clinton had a policy of using Bin Laden as a bulwork against China, Russia and Iran. Even when the proof was clear to anyqone with eyes and ears that Bin laden had turned his attention to destroying the USA, Clinton still refused to believe it....

[philman_36]

Would you like to give your suggestions for how they'd have stopped it?
Not being privvy to the vast amount of information available to the agencies I would be making suggestions in a vacuum. I'd have to know what was or wasn't done to make suggestions on what to do.
Being the peon Citizen that I am I'll never know so I can't make any suggestions.
Besides, I'm not getting paid diddly like the other 16 agencies that do analysis.

I can be just as petty and closed as they can.
TANSTAAFL
Isn't it all about money?