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Shepard Smith
NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, PBS.org ^ | 28 June 2001 | Terence Smith

Posted on 10/12/2001 6:45:25 AM PDT by Darlin'

The Fox News Channel anchor discusses the new brisk, conversational on-air style on his program. The following are extended excerpts of his interview with The NewsHour.

The NewsHour Media Unit is funded by a grant from the Pew Charitable Trusts

TERENCE SMITH: Your style of delivery has caught some attention. How did you develop it? What's going on in your head when you do it?

SHEPARD SMITH: Usually, it's about how would I tell this story if I were telling it to a friend on street corner while waiting for the subway or waiting for a plane. We don't tell stories the way we write stories. We don't. We speak in thoughts. We don't speak in sentences with periods, and dashes, and colons, and commas. That's not how we talk. So I try to talk like I speak when I'm yacking with my buddies.

TERENCE SMITH: Make it conversational.

SHEPARD SMITH: Sure. Why not make it conversational? The brain works in two different ways. When you're reading a newspaper, you can go back, you can relook, you can reprocess. I only get one shot at it, and I need to deliver it in the tightest, most concise, must understandable, conversational way possible. That's my job.

Developing a style

TERENCE SMITH: How did you develop this? Did you come up with this yourself? Did you model it on others? Is it a sort of composite of other things?

SHEPARD SMITH: I think it's a composite. You know, I'm standing on the corner this morning, this bus is coming by, and this woman runs right out of the street, and the bus is about to hit her, and she just keeps running. The bus is plowing at her, and there are these people standing across the street, and they're going, "Oh, my God. Did you see that? What is this woman doing?" That's how we tell stories. We tell them in present perfect tense, and it's just a matter of listening to how people talk, figuring out that's the way they take in information, and then deciding on a way to give them information in that style.

It seems to me the most honest way to do it, to boil everything down to sentences as you might read them in The New York Times or The Washington Times, doesn't serve our audience well, I don't think.

TERENCE SMITH: Why not?

SHEPARD SMITH: That's not how we take in information when we're listening to people. That's not how we're accustomed to listening to people. We tell stories in groups. We talk over each other. We can take in a number of different things.

Someone walking by who's pleasant looking or says something that you hear from the other side, you'll go over, you'll have a conversation going on over here, there's a camera over here. You're taking in a lot of things. We multitask at our computers. We're throwing words up on the screen, we're putting sound effects in there. We're selling news.

I'm very excited about our product. Our product is the day's news, something for your water cooler in the morning, and something maybe to get a giggle about while you're at the office the next day. All of those things can come together in a package that doesn't have to be boring. Why take something that we find so interesting and artificially make it boring? That seems like it would be a real disservice.

Reflecting real speech

TERENCE SMITH: This idea of reflecting what you think is the real way people talk and tell each other stories -- is it part of the sort of abbreviation of the language that we see in e-mails, and on the Internet? Do you think it’s part of a larger phenomenon?

SHEPARD SMITH: I think it is. Technology has taught us that we can do more things at one time, that we can take in more information and process it more quickly than we could 15 years ago. I know I can. When this computer thing first started, I couldn't deal with the computer, and the e-mail, and the phone, and the TV, and all of that at one time. Well, I can now, and everybody I know can. We don't have the patience.

News has been cut back and cut back, and our 3-minute packages became 2, became 1:15. Well, we've taken it to another level. I don't think we're cheating the facts in any case. Because when it's necessary, we'll slow down and take the time, but there are some items that don't need a bunch of me babbling on. Some items need a sound effect and a move to the next story.

TERENCE SMITH: When you were starting this out, and even now, when you edit the copy that you're going to read on the air, what do you find you're taking out?

SHEPARD SMITH: I find I'm checking facts because you can't do a newscast with sound effects, and loud music, and whooshes across the nation and make factual errors. I think that our bar is as high or higher than anyone else's because when you're doing all of those things that are so stimulating to the senses, you can automatically be branded as something you're not. So, if you make a fact error in that show, you're in trouble. So my main thing is to keep the facts right.

TERENCE SMITH: But beyond the facts, the style, what, what do you look for in a piece of copy in front of you, what do you look for either positively or negatively?

SHEPARD SMITH: I look for those moments that are "gee whiz" moments. There's some "gee whiz" stories in our show, and they can't be written like A-1 in the [New York] Times. They have to be written more like Page 6 in the [New York] Post.

And though they may be written in that way, I read it and find out the facts and think, "Oh, this would be a funny drop-in." And then when you see the video come to the screen -- because I haven't seen the video until the viewers see the video -- when you see the video, then you can ad lib around it.

We don't have rules about sticking to the copy and what's been copy edited. We have to stick to the facts and keep it fair and balanced, but aside from that, we can do whatever we want. That's the beauty of what this channel has allowed us to do.

A different kind of speech

TERENCE SMITH: You're creating -- not a different language, but a different kind of speech. Is that a conscious effort?

SHEPARD SMITH: I guess I am. You know, I thought that we were reflecting, not creating. It's my thought that we already sort of talk like that after church or at the pub. I think we do, a lot of us, especially those of us who are working within an environment and living within an environment that runs at a pretty frenetic pace.

You sort of eliminate the things that get in your way in this era of multitasking, and sometimes the verbs just aren't necessary. It's, "President Bush in Washington today." I don't need to say, "He is in Washington today." "President Bush in Washington today, talking with Colin Powell, getting ready for a trip overseas. Telling others yesterday about what happened when, dah, dah, dah, dah." You don't need all of those verbs.

I need to keep my story count high. I'm trying to get as many stories in my hour as is humanly possible. We're telling more stories in our hour than any national newscast has in the history of this business, I think. We're darn close to it if we're not, and sometimes verbs just get in the way. I don't use them all the time when I'm talking, so I don't use them all the time on TV.

TERENCE SMITH: Why is the quantity important, the high story count? Is it to inject sort of an energy level?

SHEPARD SMITH: We want an energy level. We're selling news. We have a product for sale called news, and I'm a salesman. I find news unbelievably interesting and exciting. I spend hours on the Web every morning, international and national Web sites, trying to take all of that stuff in. And then we boil the day down to the most interesting things of the day, and there are a lot of them.

We want an energy, we want a pace, but we also don't want to waste people's time. We want to try and give them as much as we can without a lot of extra words, without any editorializing, and just get it out there, and then let them decide. We can do that quickly. Some stories can be done in 15 seconds. Sometimes that's all you need to know.

Some stories are important, but don't have a volume of information. Some stories can be told in 10 or 15 seconds. They don't all have to be 2 minutes. They don't all need to be 2 minutes.

TERENCE SMITH: Is anything lost, in your opinion, in a more conversational, more relaxed style of communication? Is anything lost?

SHEPARD SMITH: I think things are gained. There are some traditionalists who will say, "Well, you lose your credibility when you begin to talk like your neighbors." Well, I get e-mails like that, but we're not trying to become a copy of "The NewsHour" or of one of the big three. Those turfs are very well staked out.

We're just trying to tell the news of the day, give you some interesting facts, give you the important politics and the items that are going to affect your life, something to yack about at the water cooler in the morning, and something to give you a chuckle. That's all we're trying to do. We're right in between our golden hour of Brit Hume and our sensation of Bill O'Reilly. We're just sort of the gap in between. We're just trying to hold our own, and keep the train from coming off the tracks then.

Things are working here. We feel like an energetic, exciting hour of news and information has found a slot. It's, it's found an audience. So I think, until the viewers say, "We don't like you any more," we're going to keep trying new things.


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To: veronica
Can't take him. Something about him just grates on me. Me too. I think he's queer.
21 posted on 10/12/2001 7:27:30 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Darlin'
Who is this guy related to? How the heck did he get his job in the first place, and how does he keep it?

Is his grandfather named FOX?

Is his father-in-law Roger Ailes?

22 posted on 10/12/2001 7:31:15 AM PDT by Precisian
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To: Quilla
I agree with you that Shep's style is refreshing and a pleasant change of pace. I will admit he was slightly startling in the beginning; it took a little while before I realized just how much better he was than the blow-dry clones on the networks. He doesn't attempt to copy them and in the process has found a very agreeable style. Go Shep!
23 posted on 10/12/2001 7:31:40 AM PDT by Arizona
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To: veronica
A little touch of a smartalec, perhaps.
24 posted on 10/12/2001 7:32:55 AM PDT by Lucky
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To: Lucky
Yes. I like all the rest at Fox though. David Asman, David Schuster, the guy in the morning - the one with dark hair (not that goofy Steve Doocey guy) Brit of course, Tony Snow, etc.
25 posted on 10/12/2001 7:40:11 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Darlin'
Shepard doesn't sound hip, cool, and innovative by leaving out the verbs. He sounds like an idiot. He needs to go back to broadcasting school (I suggest Western Kentucky University, which has the top-rated television program in the nation...GO HILLTOPPERS!), and learn how to write like a professional, not a Gen-X pretty boy.
26 posted on 10/12/2001 7:46:03 AM PDT by wku man
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Brit Hume's show is the only one on FOX that I watch religiously. I do catch Shep's show occasionally, I like him until he starts going off on one of those 'pretty pony/space ghost' tangents of his. What FOX really has going for it is some top notch people like Carl Cameron, Jim Angle, Wendell Goler etc

PS I'm so glad that airhead Zahn is gone and O'Reilly is an arrogant bore.

27 posted on 10/12/2001 7:50:33 AM PDT by ICU812
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To: CheneyChick
Shep is eye candy...sigh. Is Shepard his real first name or a 'stage name.' I I don't know if he would be quite the same as 'Joe Smith.'
28 posted on 10/12/2001 7:59:53 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: Rightwing Conspirator1
I'm with you and MB. SS is affected and annoying. AND arrogant. Cannot believe the false eyelashes under eyes. Notice some time.
29 posted on 10/12/2001 8:09:29 AM PDT by doberville
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To: ICU812
I like him until he starts going off on one of those 'pretty pony/space ghost' tangents of his.

And that's the part I love.
I giggle like a schoolgirl when he says, "Thanks, Space Ghost".
Probably moreso because I haven't a clue as to what that means.

Come on....how often do you get to laugh during a very informative newscast?

30 posted on 10/12/2001 8:20:57 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: ICU812
Brit Hume's show is the only one on FOX that I watch religiously.

We tape his show every day while we're at work. He stands head and shoulders above all of the others.

31 posted on 10/12/2001 8:21:40 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: veronica
Probably because his eyes are too far apart. He definitely looks reptilian.
32 posted on 10/12/2001 8:34:15 AM PDT by fish70
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To: mombonn
I'm definitely in the minority here. I turn Shep off every night as fast as I can. I find him extremely annoying.

Mombonn, I'm with you.... Shep is just the unfortunate host on before O'Rielly comes on so I "have" to watch a bit of his show before O'Rielly.

33 posted on 10/12/2001 8:43:37 AM PDT by plsvn
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To: mombonn
I agree with you. His news is annoying.... I guess if i consider myself a Brit Hume fan then you all know why. he isnt exactly the most animated guy on TV. Your World With Neil Covuto is a plain waste of an hour to me as well. I like Neil but his show is pointless to me. Fox needs a Fox Finacial network and take THAT show with it.
34 posted on 10/12/2001 8:52:23 AM PDT by smith288
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To: smith288
Your World With Neil Covuto is a plain waste of an hour to me as well.

Yup, on those rare occasions when I'm home during his show, I change channels as well.

35 posted on 10/12/2001 9:13:56 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: Darlin'
Hey Darlin. I found this one posting. It was on a website about the RNC. I found another one. Unfortunately it was his mugshot. I don't think I'll post that one.
36 posted on 10/12/2001 2:43:54 PM PDT by MissouriRepublican
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